Hi Arthur,
I'm not in medicine but it seems that this could evolve into a discussion on the
future of medical work since there seems to be several models being discussed
here. The problem is whether one can objectively discuss the psyche and the
drugs one is taking, or not taking. It seems to be a very loaded topic given
the state of the politics of medical programs. The fragmentary approach that
is so much a part of standard medical practice seems to grow not out of the need
to heal so much as the need to evolve a workable "economic medicine of scale."
As I've explored the same issue in the Arts it has become so incredibly complex
that I could spend all of my time just researching and trying to understand the
past, present and future possibilities of the thing. The arts are the soul and
the medicine is the body. I wonder if what we are seeing here is a breakdown in
the public health system caused by the same economic presumptions that have
eaten the soul away over the last 100 years in the West.
REH
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> Could I gently intervene here and note that we are getting well off topic.
> For what its worth I too have seasonal moods with the coming and going of
> the sun. And I have found mellatonin and St. John's Wort to be of use at
> that time.
>
> So as Pres. Clinton says " I feel your pain", but after all we should be
> carrying on much of this important conversation on medication off the FW
> list and on a one to one basis.
>
> thanx
>
> Arthur Cordell
>
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> Subject: Re: Medications
>
> Ed Weick replied:
> > This assumes that we know what the "causes" are. I know people who are
> well
> > off, productive and have no cause to get depressed, but they still do.
> > There is not much you would want to add to or remove from their lives.
>
> How superficial. The medical literature has identified quite a few causes,
> but Joe Sixpack and his "practicioner" aren't aware of them or deny them
> (the latter because treating symptoms keeps him in business). One of the
> main causes is mercury, the main supply of which comes from dental amalgam
> [14]. FYI I'm attaching a few references on the topic.
>
> No silly flames from the vested interests, please...
> Chris
>
> References: Mercury and mental health
>
> [1] Dr. P.Krauss & M.Deyhle, "Field Study on the Mercury Content of Saliva",
> University of T�bingen (Germany), 1997.
> Full text at http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/KRAUSS/amalgam.html
> This study with 18,000 people found that the WHO limit for mercury
> intake was exceeded in 30% of the participants.
>
> [2] Behavioral toxicology.
> Needleman HL
> Environ Health Perspect 1995 Sep;103 Suppl 6:77-9
>
> [3] Behavioral toxicology: evaluating cognitive functions.
> Smith PJ
> Neurobehav Toxicol Teratol 1985 Jul-Aug;7(4):345-50
>
> [4] Specificity of psychiatric manifestations in relation to
> neurotoxic chemicals.
> Ross WD, Sholiton MC
> Acta Psychiatr Scand Suppl 1983;303:100-4
>
> [5] Psychological effects of low exposure to mercury vapor.
> Liang YX et al.
> Environmental Med Research, 60(2): 320-327, 1993
>
> [6] Occupational and environmental toxicology of mercury and its compounds.
> Satoh H
> Ind Health 2000 Apr;38(2):153-64
>
> [7] Neurobehavioral effects from exposure to dental amalgam.
> Echeverria D et al.
> FASEB J, Aug 1998, 12(11):971-980
>
> [8] The relationship between mercury from dental amalgam and mental health.
> Siblerud RL
> Am J Psychother 1989 Oct;43(4):575-87
>
> [9] A comparison of mental health of multiple sclerosis patients with
> silver/mercury dental fillings and those with fillings removed.
> Siblerud RL
> Psychol Rep 1992 Jun;70(3 Pt 2):1139-51
>
> [10] Chronic elemental mercury intoxication: neuropsychological
> follow-up case study.
> Hua MS, Huang CC, Yang YJ
> Brain Inj 1996 May;10(5):377-84
>
> [11] Neurobehavioral effects from exposure to dental amalgam Hg(o):
> new distinctions between recent exposure and Hg body burden.
> Echeverria D, Aposhian HV et al.
> FASEB J 1998 Aug;12(11):971-80
>
> [12] Chronic illness in association with dental amalgam.
> Godfrey ME
> J Adv Med 3:247-255, 1990
>
> [13] Defensive characteristics in individuals with amalgam illness.
> Henningsson M et al.
> Acta Odont Scand 54(3): 176-181,1996
>
> [14] WHO Environmental Health Criteria (118), Geneva 1991.