I think Ray is quite right about the need to critically assess the current moment in
medical work.
Regards,
Bob Bowd
"Ray E. Harrell" wrote:
> Hi Arthur,
>
> I'm not in medicine but it seems that this could evolve into a discussion on the
> future of medical work since there seems to be several models being discussed
> here. The problem is whether one can objectively discuss the psyche and the
> drugs one is taking, or not taking. It seems to be a very loaded topic given
> the state of the politics of medical programs. The fragmentary approach that
> is so much a part of standard medical practice seems to grow not out of the need
> to heal so much as the need to evolve a workable "economic medicine of scale."
>
> As I've explored the same issue in the Arts it has become so incredibly complex
> that I could spend all of my time just researching and trying to understand the
> past, present and future possibilities of the thing. The arts are the soul and
> the medicine is the body. I wonder if what we are seeing here is a breakdown in
> the public health system caused by the same economic presumptions that have
> eaten the soul away over the last 100 years in the West.
>
> REH
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Could I gently intervene here and note that we are getting well off topic.
> > For what its worth I too have seasonal moods with the coming and going of
> > the sun. And I have found mellatonin and St. John's Wort to be of use at
> > that time.
> >
> > So as Pres. Clinton says " I feel your pain", but after all we should be
> > carrying on much of this important conversation on medication off the FW
> > list and on a one to one basis.
> >
> > thanx
> >
> > Arthur Cordell
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: August 25, 2000 9:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Medications
> >
> > Ed Weick replied:
> > > This assumes that we know what the "causes" are. I know people who are
> > well
> > > off, productive and have no cause to get depressed, but they still do.
> > > There is not much you would want to add to or remove from their lives.
> >
> > How superficial. The medical literature has identified quite a few causes,
> > but Joe Sixpack and his "practicioner" aren't aware of them or deny them
> > (the latter because treating symptoms keeps him in business). One of the
> > main causes is mercury, the main supply of which comes from dental amalgam
> > [14]. FYI I'm attaching a few references on the topic.
> >
> > No silly flames from the vested interests, please...
> > Chris
> >
> > References: Mercury and mental health
> >
> > [1] Dr. P.Krauss & M.Deyhle, "Field Study on the Mercury Content of Saliva",
> > University of T�bingen (Germany), 1997.
> > Full text at http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/KRAUSS/amalgam.html
> > This study with 18,000 people found that the WHO limit for mercury
> > intake was exceeded in 30% of the participants.
> >
> > [2] Behavioral toxicology.
> > Needleman HL
> > Environ Health Perspect 1995 Sep;103 Suppl 6:77-9
> >
> > [3] Behavioral toxicology: evaluating cognitive functions.
> > Smith PJ
> > Neurobehav Toxicol Teratol 1985 Jul-Aug;7(4):345-50
> >
> > [4] Specificity of psychiatric manifestations in relation to
> > neurotoxic chemicals.
> > Ross WD, Sholiton MC
> > Acta Psychiatr Scand Suppl 1983;303:100-4
> >
> > [5] Psychological effects of low exposure to mercury vapor.
> > Liang YX et al.
> > Environmental Med Research, 60(2): 320-327, 1993
> >
> > [6] Occupational and environmental toxicology of mercury and its compounds.
> > Satoh H
> > Ind Health 2000 Apr;38(2):153-64
> >
> > [7] Neurobehavioral effects from exposure to dental amalgam.
> > Echeverria D et al.
> > FASEB J, Aug 1998, 12(11):971-980
> >
> > [8] The relationship between mercury from dental amalgam and mental health.
> > Siblerud RL
> > Am J Psychother 1989 Oct;43(4):575-87
> >
> > [9] A comparison of mental health of multiple sclerosis patients with
> > silver/mercury dental fillings and those with fillings removed.
> > Siblerud RL
> > Psychol Rep 1992 Jun;70(3 Pt 2):1139-51
> >
> > [10] Chronic elemental mercury intoxication: neuropsychological
> > follow-up case study.
> > Hua MS, Huang CC, Yang YJ
> > Brain Inj 1996 May;10(5):377-84
> >
> > [11] Neurobehavioral effects from exposure to dental amalgam Hg(o):
> > new distinctions between recent exposure and Hg body burden.
> > Echeverria D, Aposhian HV et al.
> > FASEB J 1998 Aug;12(11):971-80
> >
> > [12] Chronic illness in association with dental amalgam.
> > Godfrey ME
> > J Adv Med 3:247-255, 1990
> >
> > [13] Defensive characteristics in individuals with amalgam illness.
> > Henningsson M et al.
> > Acta Odont Scand 54(3): 176-181,1996
> >
> > [14] WHO Environmental Health Criteria (118), Geneva 1991.
