I can�t stand more agressions.
Bye to all.
Carmen
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Subject: Ref.: Re: Kisses to you, too! (was Re: Argentina can arise! (was
Re: Argentina down and out)


> El Sun, 23 December 2001, "Carmen Lopez" escribi�:
>
> [...]
> Most argentineans are a mixture of Italians and Spanish
> > people. Culturally we are a mixture of andaluces and italians, perhaps
that
> > is why we are "picaros".
> Andaluces???? Are you sure? I thought that most of the spaniard emigrants
to Argentina were gallegos and asturianos (from Galicia and Asturias, north
of Spain).
>
> [...]
> Today I don�t have much to say about my country
> > because as  I was exhausted with our awful TV images, I decided to spend
a
> > day out in a country house and try to avoid talking about politics for a
> > while (though it was not possible at all).
> In your message written this morning at 8:45 (sunday!!), that I deleted by
mistake, you said something about the need of a leader in your country, and
about your dissapointment with De la Rua's performance. I've been thiking
about it all day long because I voted for Fox (and against the Partido
Revolucionario Institucional), looking for changes in the goverment and in
the way power had been exerted for almost 100 years in this country, and I'm
also very dissapointed with the results.
> Now I know that we DO NOT need leaders in Mexico and in Argentina. What we
need is leadership. No more strong men, allmightly presidents or caciques,
please. They fail, they are very dangerous. We need stronger groups acting
in all levels and stances of reality, that share power in balance. We need
better politics, with people doing politics from business, the academy, the
arts, the civil organizations, non-goverment organizations, communities,
special interest groups, etc., etc. We need stronger institutions.
> That's something we have to learn from americans. They can afford a
"leader" like Mr. Bush because his power is delimited, balanced,
compensated, by a number of power stances across the society. In latin
american countries presidential power is almost absolute.
>
> > As for kisses, here in Argentina, we are very warm people, even men kiss
> > each other!!!!! I think that is nica to be able to express our feeling
> > freely without taking care of analising them.
> Interestingly, warmth is not part of the stereotype of argentinians
predominant among mexican population. I would say it is the opposite:
argentinians are seen as cool and arrogant. Remember that we had thousands
of refugees (exiliados) from Argentina during the dictadura militar period.
> Of course, kisses are always welcome :-)
> Saludos desde la ciudad de M�xico
> Salvador S�nchez
>
>
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