Brad,

Nicely turned. However, you might have including a bit about the "good life.

I doubt that credence can be attached to philosophic criticism of the 
sophists, for they were a pain in the what-not to other philosophers, a 
situation unlikely to make them welcome at the philosophers' ball.

I would argue that not too much can be gained from the rarified stuff that 
nowadays passes for philosophy. It seems to provide little more than a 
chance to marvel at the complexities of the human mind.

"You know no more today than you did yesterday, so why are you still 
discussing it?"

Their is a bit of sophistry for you. I wonder the origin of the word?

  Harry
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Brad  wrote:

>Harry Pollard wrote:
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > In my lighter moments I regard myself as a kind of neo-sophist. The
> > sophists were likely to say to their earnest contemporaries - 'You know no
> > more today than you did yesterday, so why are you still discussing it?' So,
> > in that spirit, I would say that we know perhaps all we will ever know
> > about a the possibility of a Supreme Being.
> >
> > So, all right already!
>[snip]
>
>After Plato, we know not too much about the Sophists.
>
>It looks like some were con-artists teaching con-artistry,
>and some (like Protagoras?) were more like American Pragmatists,
>teaching how to lead a good life in society.
>
>One thing they probably would all have agreed on would be
>that individual human beings have to choose how they will
>live and that there is no G-d or Eternal Forms to tell
>each of us how to live.  So maybe they were all
>proto-"existentialists".
>
>Calling oneself a "neo-sophist", I think, could mean one is
>a con-artist [e.g., a neo-liberal economist...], or that one
>is a democratic socialist [e.g., a John Dewey...],
>or probably a number of other
>things.
>
>     Man is the measurer of all things.
>                   (--Protagoras, with a slight emendation
>                          to make sense of Plato's quots of him)
>
>"Yours in discourse...." (which was probably a more serious
>human praxis for Protagoras than for Plato, since Plato
>already knew all the answers, and Socrates may have been
>Jacques Derrida in a "time warp")
>
>\brad mccormick


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