[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that
> can be counted counts."     -  Albert Einstein

And nobody ever counts anything that does not count:  All
"facts" are part-aspects of evaluating acts -- at least
if we exclude "boundary cases" if there are any, which
may possibly include severe obsessive-compulsive states,
but certainly not the daily activities of accountants,
academic "psychologists", employees of ETS, etc. (AKA
"bean counters").  

I think the Walt Whitman quote describes the
*problem* -- in a way that looks like it is
prescribing the solution.

Both the boring astronomical lecturer and the
ignorantly gawking star-gazer -- both the
"empirical scientist" "realist" and the new-Agey touchy-feeley
sentimentalist -- each see only one side of the situation
which our centrifugal [capitalism,
Cartesianism, Peter Ramus...] history has led us to.

As Robert Musil urged (_Precision and Soul_, _The Man
Without Qualities_...), we need to seek the mystical
at the center of the most exacting disciplined praxis --
and, for the astronomer, this will not consist of
him or her oohing and ahhing over how beautiful
false-color photographic images of distant celestial
objects are, but rather in a quality of his or her
*experience doing science* -- what Abraham Maslow
called "peak experiences" (and his followers at Univ. of
Chicago call: "flow state experience"...), what 
another person I know called: "Ekstasis" (referring to
the condition in which Hermann Broch did at least
some of his writing), etc.

And I think one way to start getting out of the
muddle we take to be complete
clarity is to reflect on how every fact must be
embedded in an affective context, while, on the
other hand, every emotion (again, excluding
things like grand mal seizures...) asserts
truth claims -- A person only says "1 + 1 = 3 (or
2 or whatever)..." only if they have some reason for it
(maybe to pass Math 101 so they won't be sent to
Vietnam, or because they get off on Pythatogean
imagery of music of the spheres, or because,
like Sartre's waiter, they want to be 
an accounting clerk....).... Conversely,
to -- even "blindly" -- hate somebody implies
the truth claim that the person did some act
or has some quality (e.g., being a card
carrying member of the Communist Party USA,
or having a sense of entitled arrogance due
to being a member of Skull and Bones, etc.).

Long ago, Western humanity took a wrong turn in its
understanding of *both* the mystical and the
scientifical -- read Musil; read Stephen Toulmin's
_Cosmopolis: The hidden agenda of modernity_....

We have not yet really tried all the ways of
being modern....

Would that I was writing this from Theleme instead
of the "Homeland"....

"Yours in discourse...." [outside of which there
is not even "nothing", for even "nothing"
only finds its place in "the conversation we are"....] 

\brad mccormick 

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McAndrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:59 PM
> To: pete
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FWk: Re: Double-stranded Economics
> 
> At 5:38 PM -0800 2002/01/31, pete wrote:
> >Some decades ago, I took a course in celestial mechanics, which used
> >the beautifully elegant Newtonian formulations to develop a framework
> >for computing the positions and movements of bodies under gravity,
> 
> Pete,
> Your ideas reminded me of this:
> 
> When I heard the learned astronomer,
> 
> When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me,
> 
> When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them,
> 
> When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much
> applause in the lecture-room,
> 
> How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,
> 
> Till rising and gliding out I wandered off by myself,
> 
> In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
> 
> Looked up in perfect silence at the stars.
> 
> Walt Whitman
> 
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-- 
  Let your light so shine before men, 
              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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