We in Ontario have had 7 years of this with Harris' neo-cons. I guess 
the provinces are just following nations: Thatcher in the UK, then 
Reagan/Bush/Clinton/W.Bush in US, New Zealand, Howard- Australia, 
Mulrooney,Chretien - Canada. Bill Moyer's  PBS special last night 
"Trading Democracy" suggests to me that David Korten's book "When 
Corporations Rule the World" can get rid of the 'When'.

Brian McAndrews


>A most astute analysis of BC Politics. Yes it is our favourite sport next
>to hockey but Campbell has gone beyond the usual "party fun" with a
>campaign of lies and mean-spiritedness the likes of which we have not seen
>in living memory.
>FWP
>
>On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Ed Weick wrote:
>
>>  Mike Gurstein:
>>
>>  > Campbell didn't so much win the BC election (the Liberals lost the
>>  previous
>>  > BC election largely because of fear and loathing for Campbell personally)
>>  > rather, the NDP (mild Social Democrats) imploded after 8 years, with a
>>  > completely discredited Premier (under charges for corruption), an
>>  exhausted
>>  > and demoralized set of MLA's, and a party which had completely run out of
>>  > ideas and energy.
>>  >
>>  > Keith's dog running for AB-NDP (Anything But the NDP) would have won in a
>>  > similar landslide.
>>  >
>>  > What's interesting of course, is that a similar implosion destroyed the
>>  > previous right wing Government (complete with Premier under charges for
>>  > corruption) 8 years hence.  The lurches from right to left to right are a
>>  > (sad) characteristic of BC politics and are a source of appalled amazement
>>  > to many (most) BC taxpayers, and in the current instance are causing very
>>  > serious concern in all political camps in the Province.  (Campbell's
>>  > approval rating is currently roughly half what it was six months ago at
>>  the
>>  > time of the election.)
>>
>>  I once worked with a former Secretary General of BC Federation of Labour
>>  whose take on BC politics was that you have to look at it as entertainment.
>>  You'll go nuts if you take it seriously.
>>
>>  Keith Hudson:
>>
>>  > What puzzles me is why your comments should have been triggered by the
>>  > quote of Keynes to Hayek (below). When Keynes was saying that some
>>  > politicians want planning in order to serve the devil, he was agreeing
>>  with
>>  > Hayek's apprehensions that the Labour Party in England might bring in a
>>  > sufficient level of planning which would then bring about the sort of
>>  > totalitarian society that was taking place in Stalin's Soviet Russia. I
>>  > don't understand why this should have triggered your characterisation of
>>  > Gordon Campbell's "cut, slash and burn" policies as not planning. They
>>  > sound like de-planning to me, or perhaps de-over-planning.
>>
>>  As Mike Gurstein suggested I was commenting on Campbell as an ideologue.
>>  Much like the planners in Russia, what his government is doing is driven by
>>  a punitive and destructive ideology that makes little sense in terms of BC's
>>  present realities.  It's gone beyond the norms of politics as entertainment.
>>
>>  Ed
>>
>>


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