Selma, forgive me,

Life is complicated and I wrote the last post to Harry thinking that he had
asked the question since I was reading his prior to your post.   Please
accept my apology and what I was saying about culture as being to you.   The
position I staked out was to Harry and his post rather than to you which was
just a misunderstanding due to my haste.

Thanks for posting the article.

Ray
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From: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Ray, if I understand you correctly to be saying that this program ignores
> cultural learnings that do not fit into the standards of the dominant
> society, I believe you are making the same point Brad made about the
> individual-i.e., that the program is tailoring the standard expectations
of
> the dominant society to the individual child so that she/he will fit in
> better.
>
> Please correct me if I am misinterpreting or misconstruing anyone's
> statements.
>
> Selma
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Hudson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "mcore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Schools/education
>
>
> > > I am particularly interested in the response some of you may have to
the
> > > idea that each child should have a program individually tailored to
> > her/his
> > > needs and that some children will graduate at 14 and others at 21.
> > >
> > > Selma
> >
> >
> > This is the same as musical instruction.   My daughter's good friend in
> the
> > third grade was playing the Mozart A Major Piano Concerto which I played
> in
> > High School.   My daughter had the same Earth Sciences course in middle
> > school that I had as a non-science student at the University of Tulsa,
> while
> > others at University had the "Music Appreciation" course in college that
I
> > had on the reservation in 9th grade.   The only order to learning is
> within
> > the discipline and is limited by psycho-physical considerations,
otherwise
> > we are speaking of social realities.   The social realities are also the
> > issue with Campbell in British Columbia.
> >
> > Does anyone know whether the Chugach program is Aleut, Indian and Inuit?
> > Those communities up there are Native.   There was also that key word
> about
> > culture in the article.   I was interested in why they didn't mention
that
> > but all of the articles about Tar Creek and the Quapaw Reservation
(where
> > I'm from) always mention the town and never anything about it being
Indian
> > either.    There was also the comment about alcoholism which is another
> code
> > word for Indian used by the media.    The program resembles a program
used
> > on our reservation as I said and another that I read about at a
> reservation
> > in Washington State.    Often the Tribes go out looking for a White Man
to
> > come back and teach us our realities because the government will not
allow
> > us to use our own.    So if we want our own processes then we must find
> some
> > White Man who has developed a business around that "white" version which
> is
> > then authenticated and OK to us on the reservations.    It happens
> regularly
> > and the politics of it is well known in Indian country and is assumed.
> >
> > By the way, wampum is made from a shell, is a Lavender purple and comes
> from
> > a particularly difficult part of the shell to harvest and work with.
It
> is
> > easier now with machines and one can imagine how difficult it was before
> the
> > use of metal tools.   The color is sacred and the value is both that and
> the
> > extreme difficulty in manufacturing it from the shell that has little
> color
> > in it.   The confusion is with the belts which are a form of heiroglyph
to
> > record contracts.    They are called Wampum belts whether they have
wampum
> > beads in them or not.   But the conversation was interesting.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > REH
> >
> >
> >
>

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