I do appreciate your explanation because I was totally confused about your response to what I had said.. I couldn't imagine that what I had said could have generated that response from you since I pretty much agree with just about everything you've been saying.
Am I still confused? Selma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Schools/education > Selma, forgive me, > > Life is complicated and I wrote the last post to Harry thinking that he had > asked the question since I was reading his prior to your post. Please > accept my apology and what I was saying about culture as being to you. The > position I staked out was to Harry and his post rather than to you which was > just a misunderstanding due to my haste. > > Thanks for posting the article. > > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Hudson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "mcore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: Schools/education > > > > Ray, if I understand you correctly to be saying that this program ignores > > cultural learnings that do not fit into the standards of the dominant > > society, I believe you are making the same point Brad made about the > > individual-i.e., that the program is tailoring the standard expectations > of > > the dominant society to the individual child so that she/he will fit in > > better. > > > > Please correct me if I am misinterpreting or misconstruing anyone's > > statements. > > > > Selma > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Hudson" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "mcore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Schools/education > > > > > > > > I am particularly interested in the response some of you may have to > the > > > > idea that each child should have a program individually tailored to > > > her/his > > > > needs and that some children will graduate at 14 and others at 21. > > > > > > > > Selma > > > > > > > > > This is the same as musical instruction. My daughter's good friend in > > the > > > third grade was playing the Mozart A Major Piano Concerto which I played > > in > > > High School. My daughter had the same Earth Sciences course in middle > > > school that I had as a non-science student at the University of Tulsa, > > while > > > others at University had the "Music Appreciation" course in college that > I > > > had on the reservation in 9th grade. The only order to learning is > > within > > > the discipline and is limited by psycho-physical considerations, > otherwise > > > we are speaking of social realities. The social realities are also the > > > issue with Campbell in British Columbia. > > > > > > Does anyone know whether the Chugach program is Aleut, Indian and Inuit? > > > Those communities up there are Native. There was also that key word > > about > > > culture in the article. I was interested in why they didn't mention > that > > > but all of the articles about Tar Creek and the Quapaw Reservation > (where > > > I'm from) always mention the town and never anything about it being > Indian > > > either. There was also the comment about alcoholism which is another > > code > > > word for Indian used by the media. The program resembles a program > used > > > on our reservation as I said and another that I read about at a > > reservation > > > in Washington State. Often the Tribes go out looking for a White Man > to > > > come back and teach us our realities because the government will not > allow > > > us to use our own. So if we want our own processes then we must find > > some > > > White Man who has developed a business around that "white" version which > > is > > > then authenticated and OK to us on the reservations. It happens > > regularly > > > and the politics of it is well known in Indian country and is assumed. > > > > > > By the way, wampum is made from a shell, is a Lavender purple and comes > > from > > > a particularly difficult part of the shell to harvest and work with. > It > > is > > > easier now with machines and one can imagine how difficult it was before > > the > > > use of metal tools. The color is sacred and the value is both that and > > the > > > extreme difficulty in manufacturing it from the shell that has little > > color > > > in it. The confusion is with the belts which are a form of heiroglyph > to > > > record contracts. They are called Wampum belts whether they have > wampum > > > beads in them or not. But the conversation was interesting. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > REH > > > > > > > > > > > >
