I haven't been tracking it very closely, but there is an emerging field of
Information Systems studies which is looking at what is being called
Artificial Life. In this there is the designing of artificial organisms
which live only within computers.  They have a variety of the
characteristics of real organisms including the capacity to reproduce and so
on.  It seems that the most recent development in the field is that the
organisms are given some of the social characteristics of humans and they
are left to see how they organize themselves into communities/societies.

(Think Tamagouchi and the Sims as primitive examples)...

MG

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Subject: Re: Privatizing the Public: Whose agenda? At What Cost?



Selma Singer:

> I find the whole idea of using technological tools to help devise better
> social structure, very, very exciting. As long as the techology is seen as
a
> TOOL for human purposes, that is.
>
> Why would it not be possible to feed a computer the kinds of outcomes one
> would want to see and what characteristics the behavior would exhibit and
> have the computer HELP us think about that. I'm not saying the computer
> would necessarily be able to devise those structures but it very well may
be
> able to help us in our thinking about the strategies we would need to
> employ, especially in getting from where we are now to where we might want
> to be.
>

Computers can be helpful but are limited.  The are most helpful where cause
and effect linkages are known, or even known with considerable imprecission.
For example, economists use them to predict the effects of changes in
interest rates, the IPCC has used them to predict the consequences of
climate change, and environmental scientists can use them to determine the
changes in streamflow characterisics and other variables in the case of an
impeded waterway.  So some specific cause/effect relationships can be
modelled and predicted, using computers.  However, I don't think you can go
beyond that and use computers to predict change in society as a whole or to
somehow model positive social change.  It's just too complicated, recursive
and uncertain, and there is often little agreement on the positives and
negatives of change.  I'm afraid we'll just have to lurch on with a little
support from the microchip, but not very much.

Ed Weick



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