That was also before the IMF got involved in their Draconian moves that destroyed the economic heart of the society Yugoslavian Society. We forget that.
REH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Paull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: RE: Le Pen's success > Hi Cordell, Keith et al, > > I think I disagree to a certain extent. I seem to recall stories > I heard about Sarajevo, how cosmopolitan it was and how the > population had a large number of ethnically mixed marriages. > This all, of course, before the death of Tito. > > However all this turned disastrous with Bosnian independence. > > The conclusion I draw is that, given a chance to mingle, the > people will get along fine and tribal instincts will be > individually suppressed. But the instincts of most over-testosteroned > leaders seem to be to use those suppressed instincts to rise to > power. > > Dennis Paull > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > At 06:09 AM 4/23/2002 Tuesday , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Agree with Keith. Our ideals seem to run ahead of what our genetic > >endowment allows us to do. > > > >arthur > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:06 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Le Pen's success > > > > > >Le Pen's success in being voted in as one of the two candidates for next > >month's Presidential election in France is headline news in every single > >one of our newspapers this morning (and, I'm sure, in French newspapers > >too). The headlines proclaim a sense of amazement and shock that this crude > >anti-immigrant right-winger should have had so much success so far. > > > >(The left-wing parties will be telling their flocks to vote for Chirac, > >even though he's a strong wight-winger and faces serious corruption > >allegations. Apparently posters are already appearing in Paris saying: > >"Vote for the Thief, and not the Fascist".) > > > >I'm amazed and shocked that newspapers and politicians are -- apparently -- > >amazed and shocked. > > > >Next month we are going to have elections for local councils in England and > >the British National Party (very similar to Le Pen's) is going to stand in > >several northern towns and cities where there is constant racial unrest > >between the indigenous English and Indian/Pakistani immigrants (and also > >bitter hatreds between Hindus and Moslems among the latter). Without any > >doubt, the BNP candidates will score sizeable votes and some candidates > >might get elected. And then the newspapers and politicians will purport to > >be amazed and shocked again! > > > >Of course, the newspapers are just stirring up controversy for the sake of > >circulation. (I am sure that their experienced journalists are not in any > >way surprised by these events.) It's the apparent naivete of the > >politicians that's so significant. (Though again, I am sure that > >experienced politicians are not really naive -- it's just that their > >comfortable world has been disturbed.) > > > >All this shows that many opinion moulders who should know better don't have > >much idea about the essentially tribal nature of our species. This in-group > >out-group behaviour is one of our strongest genetic traits. We'll never > >lose it. If the present cultural differences subside, then we'll invent new > >ones. > > > >To try and prevent an onslaught of criticism from those one or two FWers > >who might misinterpret me on purpose, I am *not* saying that we should > >accept tribalism passively and put up with fierce racial riots in our > >northern towns or 20ft steel walls presently existing between Protestant > >and Catholics areas in Northern Ireland. All I am saying is that if our > >politicians were better educated in our evolutionary origins and > >anthropological history, then they could design legislation a great deal > >more intelligently than they do now. (Out of 600-odd MPS in our House of > >Commons, there are less than six with any sort of scientific degree, and > >not a single one as far as I'm aware with any sort of qualification in the > >biological sciences.) > > > >Keith Hudson > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >"Writers used to write because they had something to say; now they write in > >order to discover if they have something to say." John D. Barrow > >_________________________________________________ > >Keith Hudson, Bath, England; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_________________________________________________ > > >
