Burkas predated the taliban and, as was pointed out, now post-date them. Brad, have you EVER talked with a Muslim woman who wears the burka, or other veiled or covered Muslim women?
Lawry > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad > McCormick, Ed.D. > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > snip....snip.... > > > > debivort.... > > > > Nothing wrong with burkas, Keith -- except that the Western feminist > > movement has labelled them oppressive. I haven't heard any feminist say > > 'Ooooops, maybe we were wrong. Maybe our Afghani sisters really > DO like to > > wear burkas, > > Not by any means all of them! > > Burqas are the outward and visible sign of portable imprisonment. > Surely you have read about the Taliban not allowing women to > even leave their houses to see a doctor without a male relative to > escort them? Etc. > > But the true potential of the burqa has not yet been > exploited: The Islamic People's Stealth Technology: The Burqa Bomber! > > And where there are burqas, the question arises whether the > infibulators with their razor blades to "perfect what > nature left not quite finished" can be far away? > > http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/womenululating.ram > > \brad mccormick > > > in the same way that we Western women have our own clothing > > habits, rules and taboos. Hmmmmm," our enlightened feminist > would go on to > > say, "I wonder what our Afghani sisters say about our high-heels, our > > display of skin, our make-up, our tight-clothing.....is it possible that > > they don't see, whith all these things, how advanced and > sophisticated we > > western women are???" > > > > cordell.... > > > > I think the issue is choice. Westerners can wear anything (or > nothing, in > > many cases) but the the others must wear burkas. Most Westerners would > > find the lack of choice oppresive. Perhaps some Moslem women > as well bridle > > at the lack of choice. > > > > > This is particularly so in Saudi Arabia where, indeed, the > present Saudi > > > royal family came to power by mounting a jihad in 1902 with > the assistance > > > of the Wahhabi sect, and have been indebted to them ever since. > > > > 1922 perhaps? It wasn't a jihad -- it was a tribal war vs. the > Hashemites. > > The Saudi tribe WAS Wahhabi -- they didn't do it with the > assistance of such > > a 'sect'-- it is simply a desert tribal Arabian school of Islam. > > > > And, yes, Wahhabism is a strong social and moral force in Saudi > Arabia, and > > does stand in variance to modernizing -- meaning, for better or worse -- > > westernizing forces > > > > Generally, the oil-rich countries -- and not just the Arab ones -- have > > tended to become dependent on foreign labor, manual and > professional. Oil > > revenue money is distributed freely, in effect, to nationals of > the country, > > and they do not have to do any work. So the nationals become > dependent on > > the foriegn workers, and fail to develop as a work force of > their own. This > > is the reality behind many of the symptoms you point to. This > is a very hard > > nut to crack. Saudi over-spending has left them in debt, and so > this pattern > > is being severely challenged -- and for simple economic reasons and not > > religious ones. Will Saudi Arabia and the others, find a way, > despite their > > wealth, to evolve a competent diversified indigenous workforce? > This is, > > IMHO, the number one issue before them. I did a detailed study > (including a > > large public opinion survey) several years ago of this stuation > in one such > > country (not SA) and was impressed by how hard it was going to be. > > > > With this inmind, I have renamed our thread. > > > > Best regards, > > Lawry > > -- > Let your light so shine before men, > that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16) > > Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21) > > <![%THINK;[SGML+APL]]> Brad McCormick, Ed.D. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit my website ==> http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/ >