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From: "Tom Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Genetic Understanding (was Re: The Blank Slate)


> Keith,
>
> You underestimate professional liars and overestimate scientists engaged
in
> basic research. Professional liars have consciences, principles and
> mortgages. So do scientists. I'm sure that what you say is true, that by
and
> large scientists are engaged in discovering what-is, not trying to
persuade
> people into believing what-is-not.
>
> At the end of the day all the discovering what-is and persuading
what-is-not
> gets poured into a giant sieve and is spread across the land like so much
> fertilizer and pesticide. It is not the scientists who determine the
> proportions.
>
> One of the great homeopathic tricks of the persuading trade is that more
> often than not a carefully controlled dose of what-is is just the ticket
for
> persuading people into believing what-is-not. And how could it be
different
> for the molecular biologist? Beavering contentedly under the impression
they
> are (switch to instructional film narrator voice) "engaged in basic
> research", from another perspective they may simply be cranking out props
to
> be used in a glossy brochure.
>
> Think of the lab-coated basic research scientists as the lab mice of an
even
> more basic research scientist, the communications director.
>
> > Tom,
> >
> >
> > I suggest that your following comment is a case of crossed wires. (There
> > must be an elegant term for this in logic or linguistic philosophy, but
> > "crossed wires" will do here.) I'm afraid I don't equate professional
> liars
> > with scientists engaged in basic research. I don't think that molecular
> > biologists regard themselves as "transcendent social altruists" for one
> > minute. They're as selfish as anybody else and some of them are even
> > tempted to develop their findings commercially. But, by and large, they
> are
> > engaged in discovering what-is, not trying to persuade people into
> > believing what-is-not.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > At 09:06 18/09/02 -0700, you wrote:
> > (TW)
> > <<<<
> > It's fun to lean back and day dream about scenarios of the future that
are
> > feasible on the assumption of scientist-saints. Just try working as a
> > scientist-saint for a few years, though, and see what that does to your
> > income and standing in the profession. The same is true of writers,
> graphic
> > artists, musicians, architects, engineers -- most people with
specialized
> > training and skill are employed commercially. We wouldn't think of
> > attributing some sort of transcedent social altruism to advertising
> > copywriters as a profession. Why should we do so for molecular
biologists?
> > Or, more to the point, why should we believe advertising copywriters
when,
> > in their stints as content providers, they attribute transcendent social
> > altruism to molecular biologists?
> > >>>>
> >
> >
>
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> >
> > Keith Hudson,6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England
> > Tel:01225 312622/444881; Fax:01225 447727; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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