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and save a lot of back and forth on FW.  The writer is a satirist.  His web
page is strange.  I would let it be.

I think he is trying to be provocative and is somewhat successful in a sick
and strange way.


arthur


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From: Selma Singer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:26 PM
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Subject: Fw: Hitler's Children 



I thought this might be of some interest to people on this list.

Selma


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Subject: Hitler's Children


> williamegrim.tripod.com
> Posted 8/14/2002
>
> By William E. Grim
>
> I'm not Jewish. Nobody in my family died in the Holocaust. For me,
> anti-Semitism has always been one of those phenomena that doesn't really
> register on my radar, like tribal genocide in Rwanda, a horrible thing
> that happens to someone else.
>
> But I live in a small town outside of Munich on a street that until May of
> 1945 was named Adolf-Hitler-Strasse. I work in Munich, a pleasant
> metropolitan city of a little over a million inhabitants whose Bavarian
> charm tends to obscure the fact that this city was the birthplace and
> capital of the Nazi movement. Every day when I go to work I pass by the
> sites of apartments Hitler lived in, extant buildings in which decisions
> were made to murder millions of innocent people, and plazas in which book
> burnings took place, SS troops paraded and people were executed. The
> proximity to evil has a way of concentrating one's attention, of putting a
> physical reality to the textbook narratives of the horrors perpetrated by
> the Germans.
>
> Then the little things start to happen that over a period of time add up
> to something very sinister. I'm on a bus and a high school boy passes
> around Grandpa's red leather-bound copy of Mein Kampf to his friends who
> respond by saying "coooool!" He then takes out a VCR tape (produced in
> Switzerland) of "The Great Speeches of Joseph Goebbels." A few weeks later
> I'm at a business meeting with four young highly educated Germans who are
> polite, charming and soft-spoken to say the least. When the subject matter
> changes to a business deal with a man in New York named Rubinstein, their
> nostrils flair, their demeanors attain a threatening mien and one of them
> actually says, and I'm quoting verbatim here: "The problem with America is
> that the Jews have all the money." They start laughing and another one
> says, "Yeah, all the Jews care about is money."
>
> I found that this type of anti-Semitic reference in my professional
> dealings with Germans soon became a leitmotif (to borrow a term made
> famous by Richard Wagner, another notorious German anti-Semite). In my
> private meetings with Germans it often happens that they will loosen up
> after a while and reveal personal opinions and political leanings that
> were thought to have ceased to exist in a Berlin bunker on April 30, 1945.
>
> Maybe it's because I have blond hair and my last name is of German origin
> that the Germans feel that I am, or could potentially be, "one of them."
>
> It shows how much they understand what it means to be an American.
> Whatever the reason, the conversations generally have one or more of these
> components:
>
> (1) It was unfortunate that America and Germany fought each other in World
> War II because the real enemy was Russia.
>
> (2) Yes, the Nazis were excessive, but terrible things happen during wars,
> and anyway, the scope of the Holocaust has been greatly exaggerated by the
> American media, which is dominated by Jews.
>
> (3) CNN is controlled by American Jews and is anti-Palestinian. (Yes, I
> know it sounds incredible, but even among the most highly intelligent
> Germans, even those with a near-native fluency in English, there is the
> widespread belief that the news network founded by Fidel Castro's best
> friend Ted Turner, who until recently was married to Hanoi Jane Fonda, is
> a hotbed of pro-Israeli propaganda.)
>
> (4) Almost all Germans were opposed to the Third Reich and nobody in
> Germany knew anything aout the murder of the Jews, but the Jews themselves
> were really responsible for the Holocaust.
>
> (5) Ariel Sharon is worse than Hitler and the Israelis are Nazis. America
> supports Israel only because Jews control the American government and
> media.
>
> For the first time in my life, then, I became conscious of anti-Semitism.
> Sure, anti-Semitism exists elsewhere in the world, but nowhere have the
> consequences been as devastating as in Germany.
>
> Looking at it as objectively as possible, 2002 has been a banner year for
> anti-Semitism in Germany. Synagogues have been firebombed, Jewish
> cemeteries desecrated, the No. 1 best-selling novel, Martin Walser's Death
> of a Critic, is a thinly-veiled roman a clef containing a vicious
> anti-Semitic attack on Germany's best-known literary critic, Marcel
> Reich-Ranicki (who is a survivor of both the Warsaw ghetto and Auschwitz);
> the Free Democrat Party has unofficially adopted anti-Semitism as a
> campaign tactic to attract Germany's sizeable Muslim minority; and German
> revisionist historians now are beginning to define German perpetration of
> World War II and the Holocaust not as crimes against humanity, but as
> early battles (with regrettable but understandable excesses) in the Cold
> War against communism. The situation is so bad that German Jews are
> advised not to wear anything in public that would identify them as Jewish
> because their safety cannot be guaranteed.
>
> How can this be? Isn't this the "New Germany" that's gone 57 years without
> a Holocaust or even a pogrom, where truth, justice and the German way
> prevail amidst economic wealth, a high standard of living that is the envy
> of their European neighbors, and a constitution guaranteeing freedom for
> everyone regardless of race, creed or national origin? What's changed? The
> answer is: absolutely nothing.
>
> My thesis is quite simple. While Germany no longer has the military power
> to enforce the racist ideology of the Nazis and while all extreme
> manifestations of Nazism are officially outlawed, the internal conditions
> - that is, the attitudes, worldview and cultural assumptions - that led to
> the rise of Nazism in Germany are still present because they constitute
> the basic components of German identity. Nazism was not an aberration; it
> was the distillation of the German psyche into its essential elements.
> External Nazism may have been utterly defeated in May of 1945; internal
> Nazism, however, remains, and will always remain, a potential threat as
> long as there exists a political and/or cultural entity known as Germany.
>
> Now hold on a second, I hear many people saying. You can't possibly claim
> that Germans are as anti-Semitic today as they were during the years
> 1933-1945. It is true that Germany today is much different than during the
> Third Reich. What is different is that due to its total defeat by the
> Allies, Germany today is a client state of America and must do its
> bidding. That means repression of overt anti-Semitism. It's bad for
> business.
>
> The other thing that has changed is that, even though Hitler lost World
> War II, he was phenomenally successful in carrying out his ideological
> agenda. Germany, indeed virtually all of Europe, is essentially Judenfrei
> (free of Jews) today due to the efficiency and zeal of the Germans as they
> perpetrated the Holocaust during the Third Reich. In fact, a very
> convincing case can be made that Nazism is one of the most successful
> political programs of all time. It accomplished more of its goals in a
> shorter amount of time than any other comparable political movement and
> permanently changed the face and political structure of several
> continents. Germany is wealthy, stable, relentlessly bourgeois, and for
> all intents and purposes free of Jews.
>
> Yes, there is a tiny minority of Jews, mostly centered in Berlin, and yes,
> there have been a number of Jews from the former Soviet Union who have
> emigrated to Germany, but most of the immigrants from Russia are not
> practicing Jews and do little if anything to promote a unique
> Jewish-German identity. The result of all this is that Germans today are
> able to reap the benefits of Hitler's anti-Semitic policies while paying
> lip service to the "need to remember."
>
> Young Fritz doesn't have to be overtly anti-Semitic today because his
> grandfather's generation did such a bang-up job of the Holocaust. There
> just aren't that many Jews left to hate any more, and besides, the Germans
> have their old buddies, the Arabs, to do their hating for them. You might
> call the overwhelming German support for the Palestinians to be a form of
> anti-Semitism-by-proxy.
>
> The German government has made cash payments to the State of Israel, as
> well as to individual Jews, to settle claims of murder, torture, false
> imprisonment, slave labor and genocide. Talk to most Germans and you'll
> soon discover that they think that the score has been settled between
> Germany and the Jews, that somehow the return of just a portion of what
> the Germans stole from the Jews is fair recompense for the deliberate
> murder of millions of people. If you think the Germans are truly sorry for
> what they did to the Jews, think again. There's never been an official
> "tut mir leid" offered by the Germans to the victims of the Holocaust and
> their descendants because that would admit culpability. Germany has paid
> off all claims against it without acknowledging responsibility in the same
> way that the Ford Motor Company engages in recalls of automobiles. It's
> all done to avoid liability.
>
> I have previously mentioned that Germans overwhelmingly support the
> Palestinians as opposed to the Israelis, and that this overwhelming
> support represents a form of anti-Semitism-by-proxy. Germans may claim to
> be supporting the Palestinians because they think they are an "oppressed
> people," but let's be honest - they are supporting the Palestinians and
> their Arab handlers because the Palestinians and Arabs share the same
> ideals as the Nazis.
>
> There's a long-standing history of German co-operation with the Arabs. In
> 1942 Hitler personally assured the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem that as soon
> as German forces conquered Great Britain, the Jews in Palestine (which was
> then under control of the British Mandate) would be exterminated.
>
> We should also keep in mind that the Arab terrorists who perpetrated the
> 9/11 atrocities did their planning in Germany. There are several reasons
> for this. The first is the well-known bungling and de-centralized chaos of
> the German federal bureaucracy where literally the "links" hand doesn't
> know what the "rechts" hand is doing. The second is that Arab terrorists
> can count on a substantial number of Germans who share their anti-American
> and anti-Semitic views. The former members of the SS and Hitler's
> praetorian guards, along with their neo-Nazi supporters, who gather weekly
> in Munich beer halls, made Osama bin Laden an "honorary Aryan" after the
> 9/11 attack. Mein Kampf is also a best seller in the Arab world,
> especially in Saudi Arabia, America's putative "friend." Indeed, there is
> very little difference between the anti-Semitic rantings of Hitler and
> those of the so-called "spiritual leaders" of al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Fatah.
> The Arabs also owe Hitler and the Germans big time. Hitler killed off the
> Jews, and Konrad Adenauer and his "democratic" descendants replaced them
> with the Turks. Yes, the Turks aren't Arabs, but they are Muslim, and
> although Turkey is a member of NATO and has relations with Israel, many
> Turks identify and support their radical Arab co-religionists. Turkey
> remains as fragile a democracy as Weimar Germany during the 1920s. It
> wouldn't take much for Turkey to fall into the dark side of Muslim
> extremism.
>
> The end result of Muslim immigration into Germany has been twofold: (1) It
> allows the Germans to feign liberalism and being open to freedom and
> diversity; and (2) By replacing the Jews they murdered with Muslims, who
> for the most part are as viciously anti-Semitic as were the Nazis, the
> Germans have cynically assured that those few Jews who remain in Germany
> will be unable to reassert political power even in a minority role.
>
> A final point I would like to make concerning the reasons for the
> resurgence of anti-Semitism in Germany is one that many will find at odds
> with the prima-facie evidence, or even appear to stretch the boundaries of
> common sense. Yet, I ask you to consider carefully my line of reasoning.
>
> In many respects Germany got away with the Holocaust without paying much
> of a price. Yes, many Germans died as a result of German perpetration of
> World War II and the Holocaust, and yes, there was much physical
> destruction in the country, but the situation is like the little boy who
> steals a cookie from the tray when it is cooling on the kitchen table. For
> his efforts he may have gotten his hand slapped by his mother, but the
> stolen cookie remains eaten nonetheless. After having committed the worst
> crimes in the history of humankind, the Germans were allowed to regain
> their sovereignty after only ten years; their infrastructure was
> completely rebuilt thanks to the generosity of the American people; and
> relatively few Germans were brought to trial for their monstrous crimes.
> Even those who were tried and convicted received relatively short
> sentences or had those reduced or commuted in general amnesties. For
> example, some members of the Einsatzkommandos, those Germans who, before
> the construction of the death camps, hunted and murdered Jews by the
> hundreds of thousands, received sentences of as little as five years
> imprisonment.
>
> If there were true justice in the world, Germany would no longer exist as
> a separate country, but would have long ago had its territory divided up
> and dispersed among the Allies. It was unfortunate historical coincidence
> that the Cold War began just as Germany was at last being brought to task
> for its many crimes and atrocities extending back to the First World War.
> The new threat of the Soviet Union took precedence over a just settling of
> accounts with Germany. The tragic result is that many of the countries
> raped and despoiled by Germany, such as the Czech Republic and Poland, are
> just now coming out of decades of economic decline, while Germany - fat,
> sassy, arrogant, self-satisfied, and essentially Judenfrei - has enjoyed
> four decades of undeserved economic prosperity.
>
> We can't turn back the clock to redress all of the historical wrongs that
> have been committed by the Germans, but there are a number of things that
> can be done to assure that Germany can never again be in a position to
> threaten the rest of the civilized world. First and foremost is the
> realization that, while not all Germans are anti-Semitic, there is an
> anti-Semitic tendency within German culture that extends back to the time
> of Martin Luther. Germans are instinctively anti-Semitic in the same way
> that Americans are instinctively freedom loving. Anti-Semitism has been
> and unfortunately remains the default ideology of the German people. All
> things being equal, Germans will instinctively support the enemies of the
> State of Israel. Therefore, America will need to monitor closely and be
> ready and politically willing to intervene at a moment's notice in German
> affairs when it appears that Germany is back-sliding into anti-Semitism.
> Additionally, it should be a goal of American foreign policy to oppose and
> to accelerate the dismemberment of the European Union. We must not allow
> German domination of the EU to accomplish through parliamentary
> maneuvering and brokered deals what Hitler and the Germans were unable to
> accomplish during the Third Reich. Given Germany's resurgent anti-Semitism
> (and that of France as well), a strong German-dominated EU that tolerates
> and even benignly encourages anti-Semitism, and is diplomatically allied
> with the Arab world, is potentially the greatest threat to Judaism since
> Nazi Germany and a major threat to the United States as well.
>
> The enemies of Israel are the enemies of the United States. Let all Jews
> and Americans stand united as we proclaim never again to both the
> Holocaust and 9/11. (www.iconoclast.ca)
>
> William E. Grim is a writer who lives in Germany and is a native of
> Columbus, Ohio. He may be reached at
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can read
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> more by and about him at The Official William E. Grim Website
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