Keith, I agree that there is some uselessly provocative stuff in the article, but the information about anti-Semitism in Germany scared the shit out of me; I doubt there is any reason to believe it is not true.
Selma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:14 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Hitler's Children > Selma, > > At 18:26 25/09/02 -0400, you wrote: > > > >I thought this might be of some interest to people on this list. > >Selma > > I think there's more than a grain of truth in William E. Grim's article > that you posted. At the end he mentions a resurgence of anti-Semitism in > France. Also, in the last few years of reading various accounts of Russia > and Poland, I have detected more than a few wisps of evidence that > anti-Semitism is re-asserting itself in Poland and Russia. There's > certainly a usually-disguised anti-Semitism in southern England by > middle-class professionals which reveals itself in conversational slip-ups > every now and again. > > But the general tone of Grim's article is provocative and doesn't help > constructive discussion about racial hatred. Almost every country and every > culture has a hate-race or can easily be stirred up into hating one or > other. Germany is not unique. > > As for Grim's website: > <<<< > He's made you laugh; he's made you think; he's made your life worth living. > Now it's time to give back to Famous Author William E. Grim. > You can now send money directly to his PAYPAL account. > Let him know you care. Major credit cards, E-Check and Paypal accepted. > https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=wgrim%40juno.com > >>>> > > Having read some of his "humorous" articles there (he calls himself a > modern Mark Twain!) . . . all I can say is Urgh!!! > > Keith Hudson > > > >----- Original Message ---- > >Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:31 PM > >Subject: Hitler's Children > > > > > >> williamegrim.tripod.com > >> Posted 8/14/2002 > >> > >> By William E. Grim > >> > >> I'm not Jewish. Nobody in my family died in the Holocaust. For me, > >> anti-Semitism has always been one of those phenomena that doesn't really > >> register on my radar, like tribal genocide in Rwanda, a horrible thing > >> that happens to someone else. > >> > >> But I live in a small town outside of Munich on a street that until May of > >> 1945 was named Adolf-Hitler-Strasse. I work in Munich, a pleasant > >> metropolitan city of a little over a million inhabitants whose Bavarian > >> charm tends to obscure the fact that this city was the birthplace and > >> capital of the Nazi movement. Every day when I go to work I pass by the > >> sites of apartments Hitler lived in, extant buildings in which decisions > >> were made to murder millions of innocent people, and plazas in which book > >> burnings took place, SS troops paraded and people were executed. The > >> proximity to evil has a way of concentrating one's attention, of putting a > >> physical reality to the textbook narratives of the horrors perpetrated by > >> the Germans. > >> > >> Then the little things start to happen that over a period of time add up > >> to something very sinister. I'm on a bus and a high school boy passes > >> around Grandpa's red leather-bound copy of Mein Kampf to his friends who > >> respond by saying "coooool!" He then takes out a VCR tape (produced in > >> Switzerland) of "The Great Speeches of Joseph Goebbels." A few weeks later > >> I'm at a business meeting with four young highly educated Germans who are > >> polite, charming and soft-spoken to say the least. When the subject matter > >> changes to a business deal with a man in New York named Rubinstein, their > >> nostrils flair, their demeanors attain a threatening mien and one of them > >> actually says, and I'm quoting verbatim here: "The problem with America is > >> that the Jews have all the money." They start laughing and another one > >> says, "Yeah, all the Jews care about is money." > >> > >> I found that this type of anti-Semitic reference in my professional > >> dealings with Germans soon became a leitmotif (to borrow a term made > >> famous by Richard Wagner, another notorious German anti-Semite). In my > >> private meetings with Germans it often happens that they will loosen up > >> after a while and reveal personal opinions and political leanings that > >> were thought to have ceased to exist in a Berlin bunker on April 30, 1945. > >> > >> Maybe it's because I have blond hair and my last name is of German origin > >> that the Germans feel that I am, or could potentially be, "one of them." > >> > >> It shows how much they understand what it means to be an American. > >> Whatever the reason, the conversations generally have one or more of these > >> components: > >> > >> (1) It was unfortunate that America and Germany fought each other in World > >> War II because the real enemy was Russia. > >> > >> (2) Yes, the Nazis were excessive, but terrible things happen during wars, > >> and anyway, the scope of the Holocaust has been greatly exaggerated by the > >> American media, which is dominated by Jews. > >> > >> (3) CNN is controlled by American Jews and is anti-Palestinian. (Yes, I > >> know it sounds incredible, but even among the most highly intelligent > >> Germans, even those with a near-native fluency in English, there is the > >> widespread belief that the news network founded by Fidel Castro's best > >> friend Ted Turner, who until recently was married to Hanoi Jane Fonda, is > >> a hotbed of pro-Israeli propaganda.) > >> > >> (4) Almost all Germans were opposed to the Third Reich and nobody in > >> Germany knew anything aout the murder of the Jews, but the Jews themselves > >> were really responsible for the Holocaust. > >> > >> (5) Ariel Sharon is worse than Hitler and the Israelis are Nazis. America > >> supports Israel only because Jews control the American government and > >> media. > >> > >> For the first time in my life, then, I became conscious of anti-Semitism. > >> Sure, anti-Semitism exists elsewhere in the world, but nowhere have the > >> consequences been as devastating as in Germany. > >> > >> Looking at it as objectively as possible, 2002 has been a banner year for > >> anti-Semitism in Germany. Synagogues have been firebombed, Jewish > >> cemeteries desecrated, the No. 1 best-selling novel, Martin Walser's Death > >> of a Critic, is a thinly-veiled roman a clef containing a vicious > >> anti-Semitic attack on Germany's best-known literary critic, Marcel > >> Reich-Ranicki (who is a survivor of both the Warsaw ghetto and Auschwitz); > >> the Free Democrat Party has unofficially adopted anti-Semitism as a > >> campaign tactic to attract Germany's sizeable Muslim minority; and German > >> revisionist historians now are beginning to define German perpetration of > >> World War II and the Holocaust not as crimes against humanity, but as > >> early battles (with regrettable but understandable excesses) in the Cold > >> War against communism. The situation is so bad that German Jews are > >> advised not to wear anything in public that would identify them as Jewish > >> because their safety cannot be guaranteed. > >> > >> How can this be? Isn't this the "New Germany" that's gone 57 years without > >> a Holocaust or even a pogrom, where truth, justice and the German way > >> prevail amidst economic wealth, a high standard of living that is the envy > >> of their European neighbors, and a constitution guaranteeing freedom for > >> everyone regardless of race, creed or national origin? What's changed? The > >> answer is: absolutely nothing. > >> > >> My thesis is quite simple. While Germany no longer has the military power > >> to enforce the racist ideology of the Nazis and while all extreme > >> manifestations of Nazism are officially outlawed, the internal conditions > >> - that is, the attitudes, worldview and cultural assumptions - that led to > >> the rise of Nazism in Germany are still present because they constitute > >> the basic components of German identity. Nazism was not an aberration; it > >> was the distillation of the German psyche into its essential elements. > >> External Nazism may have been utterly defeated in May of 1945; internal > >> Nazism, however, remains, and will always remain, a potential threat as > >> long as there exists a political and/or cultural entity known as Germany. > >> > >> Now hold on a second, I hear many people saying. You can't possibly claim > >> that Germans are as anti-Semitic today as they were during the years > >> 1933-1945. It is true that Germany today is much different than during the > >> Third Reich. What is different is that due to its total defeat by the > >> Allies, Germany today is a client state of America and must do its > >> bidding. That means repression of overt anti-Semitism. It's bad for > >> business. > >> > >> The other thing that has changed is that, even though Hitler lost World > >> War II, he was phenomenally successful in carrying out his ideological > >> agenda. Germany, indeed virtually all of Europe, is essentially Judenfrei > >> (free of Jews) today due to the efficiency and zeal of the Germans as they > >> perpetrated the Holocaust during the Third Reich. In fact, a very > >> convincing case can be made that Nazism is one of the most successful > >> political programs of all time. It accomplished more of its goals in a > >> shorter amount of time than any other comparable political movement and > >> permanently changed the face and political structure of several > >> continents. Germany is wealthy, stable, relentlessly bourgeois, and for > >> all intents and purposes free of Jews. > >> > >> Yes, there is a tiny minority of Jews, mostly centered in Berlin, and yes, > >> there have been a number of Jews from the former Soviet Union who have > >> emigrated to Germany, but most of the immigrants from Russia are not > >> practicing Jews and do little if anything to promote a unique > >> Jewish-German identity. The result of all this is that Germans today are > >> able to reap the benefits of Hitler's anti-Semitic policies while paying > >> lip service to the "need to remember." > >> > >> Young Fritz doesn't have to be overtly anti-Semitic today because his > >> grandfather's generation did such a bang-up job of the Holocaust. There > >> just aren't that many Jews left to hate any more, and besides, the Germans > >> have their old buddies, the Arabs, to do their hating for them. You might > >> call the overwhelming German support for the Palestinians to be a form of > >> anti-Semitism-by-proxy. > >> > >> The German government has made cash payments to the State of Israel, as > >> well as to individual Jews, to settle claims of murder, torture, false > >> imprisonment, slave labor and genocide. Talk to most Germans and you'll > >> soon discover that they think that the score has been settled between > >> Germany and the Jews, that somehow the return of just a portion of what > >> the Germans stole from the Jews is fair recompense for the deliberate > >> murder of millions of people. If you think the Germans are truly sorry for > >> what they did to the Jews, think again. There's never been an official > >> "tut mir leid" offered by the Germans to the victims of the Holocaust and > >> their descendants because that would admit culpability. Germany has paid > >> off all claims against it without acknowledging responsibility in the same > >> way that the Ford Motor Company engages in recalls of automobiles. It's > >> all done to avoid liability. > >> > >> I have previously mentioned that Germans overwhelmingly support the > >> Palestinians as opposed to the Israelis, and that this overwhelming > >> support represents a form of anti-Semitism-by-proxy. Germans may claim to > >> be supporting the Palestinians because they think they are an "oppressed > >> people," but let's be honest - they are supporting the Palestinians and > >> their Arab handlers because the Palestinians and Arabs share the same > >> ideals as the Nazis. > >> > >> There's a long-standing history of German co-operation with the Arabs. In > >> 1942 Hitler personally assured the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem that as soon > >> as German forces conquered Great Britain, the Jews in Palestine (which was > >> then under control of the British Mandate) would be exterminated. > >> > >> We should also keep in mind that the Arab terrorists who perpetrated the > >> 9/11 atrocities did their planning in Germany. There are several reasons > >> for this. The first is the well-known bungling and de-centralized chaos of > >> the German federal bureaucracy where literally the "links" hand doesn't > >> know what the "rechts" hand is doing. The second is that Arab terrorists > >> can count on a substantial number of Germans who share their anti-American > >> and anti-Semitic views. The former members of the SS and Hitler's > >> praetorian guards, along with their neo-Nazi supporters, who gather weekly > >> in Munich beer halls, made Osama bin Laden an "honorary Aryan" after the > >> 9/11 attack. Mein Kampf is also a best seller in the Arab world, > >> especially in Saudi Arabia, America's putative "friend." Indeed, there is > >> very little difference between the anti-Semitic rantings of Hitler and > >> those of the so-called "spiritual leaders" of al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Fatah. > >> The Arabs also owe Hitler and the Germans big time. Hitler killed off the > >> Jews, and Konrad Adenauer and his "democratic" descendants replaced them > >> with the Turks. Yes, the Turks aren't Arabs, but they are Muslim, and > >> although Turkey is a member of NATO and has relations with Israel, many > >> Turks identify and support their radical Arab co-religionists. Turkey > >> remains as fragile a democracy as Weimar Germany during the 1920s. It > >> wouldn't take much for Turkey to fall into the dark side of Muslim > >> extremism. > >> > >> The end result of Muslim immigration into Germany has been twofold: (1) It > >> allows the Germans to feign liberalism and being open to freedom and > >> diversity; and (2) By replacing the Jews they murdered with Muslims, who > >> for the most part are as viciously anti-Semitic as were the Nazis, the > >> Germans have cynically assured that those few Jews who remain in Germany > >> will be unable to reassert political power even in a minority role. > >> > >> A final point I would like to make concerning the reasons for the > >> resurgence of anti-Semitism in Germany is one that many will find at odds > >> with the prima-facie evidence, or even appear to stretch the boundaries of > >> common sense. Yet, I ask you to consider carefully my line of reasoning. > >> > >> In many respects Germany got away with the Holocaust without paying much > >> of a price. Yes, many Germans died as a result of German perpetration of > >> World War II and the Holocaust, and yes, there was much physical > >> destruction in the country, but the situation is like the little boy who > >> steals a cookie from the tray when it is cooling on the kitchen table. For > >> his efforts he may have gotten his hand slapped by his mother, but the > >> stolen cookie remains eaten nonetheless. After having committed the worst > >> crimes in the history of humankind, the Germans were allowed to regain > >> their sovereignty after only ten years; their infrastructure was > >> completely rebuilt thanks to the generosity of the American people; and > >> relatively few Germans were brought to trial for their monstrous crimes. > >> Even those who were tried and convicted received relatively short > >> sentences or had those reduced or commuted in general amnesties. For > >> example, some members of the Einsatzkommandos, those Germans who, before > >> the construction of the death camps, hunted and murdered Jews by the > >> hundreds of thousands, received sentences of as little as five years > >> imprisonment. > >> > >> If there were true justice in the world, Germany would no longer exist as > >> a separate country, but would have long ago had its territory divided up > >> and dispersed among the Allies. It was unfortunate historical coincidence > >> that the Cold War began just as Germany was at last being brought to task > >> for its many crimes and atrocities extending back to the First World War. > >> The new threat of the Soviet Union took precedence over a just settling of > >> accounts with Germany. The tragic result is that many of the countries > >> raped and despoiled by Germany, such as the Czech Republic and Poland, are > >> just now coming out of decades of economic decline, while Germany - fat, > >> sassy, arrogant, self-satisfied, and essentially Judenfrei - has enjoyed > >> four decades of undeserved economic prosperity. > >> > >> We can't turn back the clock to redress all of the historical wrongs that > >> have been committed by the Germans, but there are a number of things that > >> can be done to assure that Germany can never again be in a position to > >> threaten the rest of the civilized world. First and foremost is the > >> realization that, while not all Germans are anti-Semitic, there is an > >> anti-Semitic tendency within German culture that extends back to the time > >> of Martin Luther. Germans are instinctively anti-Semitic in the same way > >> that Americans are instinctively freedom loving. Anti-Semitism has been > >> and unfortunately remains the default ideology of the German people. All > >> things being equal, Germans will instinctively support the enemies of the > >> State of Israel. Therefore, America will need to monitor closely and be > >> ready and politically willing to intervene at a moment's notice in German > >> affairs when it appears that Germany is back-sliding into anti-Semitism. > >> Additionally, it should be a goal of American foreign policy to oppose and > >> to accelerate the dismemberment of the European Union. We must not allow > >> German domination of the EU to accomplish through parliamentary > >> maneuvering and brokered deals what Hitler and the Germans were unable to > >> accomplish during the Third Reich. Given Germany's resurgent anti-Semitism > >> (and that of France as well), a strong German-dominated EU that tolerates > >> and even benignly encourages anti-Semitism, and is diplomatically allied > >> with the Arab world, is potentially the greatest threat to Judaism since > >> Nazi Germany and a major threat to the United States as well. > >> > >> The enemies of Israel are the enemies of the United States. Let all Jews > >> and Americans stand united as we proclaim never again to both the > >> Holocaust and 9/11. (www.iconoclast.ca) > >> > >> William E. Grim is a writer who lives in Germany and is a native of > >> Columbus, Ohio. He may be reached at > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can read > >> > >> more by and about him at The Official William E. Grim Website > >> williamegrim.tripod.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -------------- > > Keith Hudson,6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England > Tel:01225 312622/444881; Fax:01225 447727; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ________________________________________________________________________
