Keith, wonderful!  It must be fun to watch them grow!  Just don't encourage
them to do loops on bicycles, though one of them probably will!

Ed

Ed Weick
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Canada
Phone (613) 728 4630
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: Feminization of education?


> Ed,
>
> Just for now:
>
> At 14:13 21/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
> <<<<
> What can men still do that women can't?  Well, they can still play
football.
> >>>>
>
> Don't you believe it!
>
> It's my triplet grand-daughters' 9th birthday in a few days. I had no idea
> what to give them as presents, of course, but under advice from my
> daughter, I have now bought them (a) a dressing gown for Julia; (b) a set
> of "How to Draw" books for Kate; (c) a football and a pair of football
> boots for Helen.
>
> (They are, needless to say, non-identical twins with entirely different
> sets of genes -- otherwise it might easily have been three pairs of
boots.)
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> >As a male member of the species, I must admit that I've felt myself to be
in
> >a long retreat during the past half century.  When I attended university
in
> >the 1950s, there were plenty of women there, but almost all of them were
> >taking home ec or nursing.  There were a few oddballs.  A few were taking
> >law, and one was actually taking engineering!  From what I've read about
> >universities recently, there may indeed be more women taking professional
> >courses than men.  Ads for business schools offering MBAs typically show
a
> >bright and shiny young woman who is obviously going to make it.
> >
> >I attend the odd meeting at the local high school because I have a 17
year
> >old daughter who is about to graduate.  I'm one of the few males there.
> >School council is about 90% female, and student council, this year, is
all
> >young women.  The Principal is a woman, as is one of the two VPs and most
of
> >the teachers.  Before high school, my daughter attended an "alternative"
> >school which encouraged parental participation in school policy and the
> >classroom.  About 90% of parents who participated were women.
> >
> >Women have become at least equal if not dominant in fields other than
> >education.  During the course of my career as civil servant, I saw them
move
> >out of the steno pool and into some really high-powered executive
offices,
> >including those of Deputy and Assistant Deputy Minister.  A few months
ago,
> >I attended a mining conference in Canada's high Arctic.  Some of the most
> >formidable mining executives and bureaucrats in attendance were women.
> >
> >What can men still do that women can't?  Well, they can still play
football.
> >And there are some crazy channels on TV that feature things like riding a
> >bicycle up a ramp and doing several loops on it before it hits the
ground.
> >I don't think I've seen a woman do that yet.  But, maybe soon?
> >
> >Is there a message in all of this?  Perhaps we were meant to be
matriarchal,
> >but got it wrong to begin with.  Some societies may have got it right.
> >Northern Athapaskan (Dene) Indians are matriarchal.  To quote a Dene
woman I
> >once talked to in the Mackenzie Valley: "We let men be boys till they're
> >forty.  Then we make them get serious!"  That may be the natural order of
> >things.
> >
> >Ed
> >
> >PS: I've only been to Japan once, but I remember seeing a lot of students
in
> >dark uniforms.  Above their feet, they all looked alike.  But their feet
> >were something else.  Every colour of running shoe imaginable!  Ah....,
self
> >expression!
> >
> >Ed Weick
> >577 Melbourne Ave.
> >Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7
> >Canada
> >Phone (613) 728 4630
> >Fax     (613)  728 9382
> >
> >
> >> Ed, I agree that rapid social change could be a factor in the
"hikikomori"
> >> phenomenon of Japanese males.  Economic conditions are bringing about
> >other
> >> social changes reflective of current polls showing fewer Japanese
adhere
> >to
> >> traditional gender roles, such as housewives entering the labor market
to
> >> sustain the household as husbands' hours, bonuses and expense accounts
> >were
> >> slashed.  We are not talking about the lower class or lower middle
class
> >of
> >> shop keepers, but the class of women who graduated from college and
then
> >> became lifetime homemakers.  These women mostly like their new
> >> accomplishments, even when minor and at minimum wage: they like earning
> >> their own money, not being bored at home and new power in the house.
> >> Shortly, we should be reading about how these recent developments are
> >> affecting latch key kids in already more rambunctious Japanese
classrooms
> >> but will not be surprised that the Japanese husband has not picked up
the
> >> pace of shared housework at home.  You can see how the male in Japan
might
> >> be stressed.
> >>
> >> I wonder if the demographic trend in American schools that has teachers
> >and
> >> sociologists so concerned has anything to do with "hikikomori"?
> >> Educators are increasingly noticing that girls are outperforming boys
in
> >US
> >> schools in all age groups, even through grad school.  I'd read
something
> >> (and maybe posted) about it previously, but saw a story on 60 minutes
last
> >> night that hit the basic outline: boys are dropping out, not reading as
> >> well, not competitive in the classroom, not scoring on tests as well as
> >> before, finding jobs without pursuing higher ed and even though there
are
> >> more graduating from grad programs now, if this trend continues
unabated,
> >> they project that women will be performing white collar jobs and men
the
> >> blue collar jobs by midcentury and everyone agrees this is bad news.
Da
> >so
> >> des, in Japanese: so they say.
> >>
> >> US law schools this year will have more girls than boys, med and
business
> >> schools are looking that way.  There are still more boy geniuses but
> >> proportionately, girls are outperforming boys in school as
valedictorians,
> >> math and science awards, leadership positions.  The interviewer met a
> >> principal at one high school in Massachusetts where the girls
completely
> >> dominated the graduation ceremonies and leadership positions, while the
> >boys
> >> seem to be focusing more and more on athletics as their arena for
> >> excellence.  The point was made that this was not an isolated high
school,
> >> apparently joined by a growing list of others.
> >>
> >> So of course, they went to outside experts for opinions, Daniel
Kindlon,
> >> author of Raising Cain, a book about protecting the emotional life of
> >boys,
> >> and a female ex-teacher now policy guru at American Enterprise
Institute
> >who
> >> blames feminists for over compensating with girls in schools (ie.
Reviving
> >> Ophelia) at the very time that they were naturally overcoming boys in
> >> performance categories.  She says that teachers, mostly female, are
> >favoring
> >> activities and class studies that favor girls, like sitting still in
early
> >> years, and punishing boys for being boys.  Kindlon instead blamed
fathers,
> >> saying "Where are the men at Parent Teacher Assoc. meetings?  If you
only
> >> show up for the football and soccer games it doesn't take long for boys
to
> >> get the message."
> >>
> >> The teaching profession has always been dominated by females.  So why
is
> >> that a factor now?  If it is, wouldn't hiring more male teachers help?
So
> >> the 60 Minute story profiled Jefferson school in LA, perhaps a charter
> >> school, because the kids wore polo shirts as uniforms, where the ratio
of
> >> male and female teachers is 50-50 and the kids are separated at class
> >time.
> >> In the boy's classes, the teachers use more physical stimulation to
keep
> >the
> >> boys alert and focused.  The boys say it has helped them to be
separated
> >and
> >> not worried about making mistakes in front of girls.  It has also
helped
> >to
> >> have the football coach at this small school also teach math, or in
> >another
> >> citing, poetry.  Send the message.
> >>
> >> What do you think?  Perhaps later today that story will be posted at
the
> >CBS
> >> website:  http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml
> >>
> >> Personally, I'd like to see Game Boys and Nintendo outlawed for
everyone
> >> under 16 or perhaps medically restricted to 2 hours a week as a hazard
to
> >> mental and physical health.
> >>
> >> By the way, I have some files saved on social/cultural change in Japan,
if
> >> anyone is interested, including how social change is affecting burial
> >> customs, the classroom, and language.
> >>
> >> Karen Watters Cole
> >> Outgoing Mail Scanned by NAV 2002
> >> Ed wrote:  I must admit that I didn't read the original posting on
> >> Hikikomori, and what Pete's posting (below) says about it puts a
different
> >> interpretation on it than the one I took.  It is not simply "dropping
out
> >to
> >> the labour market", which implies a certain amount of rationality, but
a
> >> neurotic condition somewhat like, as Pete suggests, anorexia.  The kid
is
> >> simply overwhelmed by, and cannot face, the world beyond the walls of
his
> >> room or his house. This is not rational and would not therefore involve
> >the
> >> intellect, except in a very screwed-up way.  These kids, mostly boys,
> >could
> >> be overly sensitive and could be highly intelligent, but are unable to
> >> develop a realistic understanding of the world beyond their doors or
come
> >to
> >> a compromise with it.
> >>
> >> Why does it happen?  I'm sure that it's partly the psychology of the
> >> individual, but socio-cultural change would also play a role.  Back in
the
> >> late 1970s and early 1980s, there was a rash of teenage suicides in a
> >small,
> >> formerly isolated, northern Canadian Aboriginal community that was
under
> >> tremendous pressure from oil and gas exploration.  Some six boys killed
> >> themselves within a very short period.  Some of it might have been
> >emulative
> >> (if he could do it, so can I), but very rapid social change in a very
> >> traditional community must have been a factor.  It is typical that
people
> >> who live in such communities have difficulty in coping with the outside
> >> world, and in the case of the community at issue, that world had
intruded
> >> full-force into their lives.
> >>
> >> Perhaps what we are witnessing is a range of responses to change.  Kids
> >who
> >> have had lots of experience with it can deal with it, but those who
have
> >had
> >> much less have difficulty in doing so, and may react to it in a far
less
> >> rational manner.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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