Ray,

Laissez-faire and laissez-aller are cute expressions describing how men and women should be free.

I don't understand your reference to the jungle of the environmentalists.

However, there is no such thing as intrinsic value. So, again, I don't understand how you relate this non-existent value to the geneticists.

It should be noted that in a free market "profit" is almost always wages. Of course, in a modern command economy, profit can be practically anything -- particularly after it's been well scrubbed by the your local neighborhood accounting firm.

Harry

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Ray wrote:

Have you ever contemplated the parallel between Laissez Faire and the
Environmental belief in the goodness of the Jungle?      Have you ever
thought about the parallel between the economic concept of  "intrinsic"
value and the "genetic" arguments that we have been discussing on this list?
Have you thought of how the paradox is that in the former case the Laissez
Faire people in the market would never allow a Jungle to lie fallow and in
the latter the geneticists are the ones who advocate all material value as
extrinsic to the thing itself, being grounded in what humans decide makes it
valuable.

A paradox maybe?    Or should we say that John Calvin was not such a nut
afterall?    That the genetic argument is just another version of the
doctrine of the Elect and that only the Elect have the right to define
value.    I discovered this quote below while rethinking the works of Walter
Kerr the New York Theater Critic from my college days.    I was given this
wonderful book that Father Burghardt quotes by a neighbor pianist friend who
went on to become a psychoanalyst and later to become the first of my
friends to die young.    Her name was Pamela Gunnell and I say that name at
this time as a remembrance and a thanks for sharing the work of this fine
American theatrical thinker.    Kerr was the first one to put his finger
squarely on the trigger point, that has destroyed the serious Arts in
America, that many more famous economic minds would travel not nearly so
succinctly or so well.

Ray Evans Harrell, artistic director
The Magic Circle Opera Repertory Ensemble, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


CONTEMPLATION: A long loving look at the real.
Reverend Walter J. Burghardt  (1989)

This adventure in contemplation has three stages. First, some
introductory remarks about obstacles to contemplation. Then, the
more substantive issue: What is contemplation? Finally, practical
suggestions on how to realize your capacity for contemplation.
The primary villain is a 20th-century law, a law that hounds us without
our knowing it, has a strong ring of virtue, seems self-evident for
responsible living. Almost three decades ago Walter Kerr framed that
law as follows: "Only useful activity is valuable, meaningful, moral.
Activity that is not dearly, concretely useful to oneself or to others is
worthless, meaningless, immoral."1

By that law most Americans live. That is why they feel guilty if they
have nothing to "do." That is why many are reluctant to confess they
took yesterday off, "did" nothing, just enjoyed. That is why so many
must justify a vacation: it will help them work better when they get
back. That is why the introductory ploy at a cocktail party is not "Who
are you?" but "What do you do?" That is why young coronary patients
are characteristically restless during leisure hours and feel guilty
when they should relax.

How did we come to this unpretty pass? Through a philosophy. Not
that utilitarianism conquered our culture at one masterstroke. As Kerr
phrased it, 'Ideas that are powerful enough to dictate the conduct of
whole generations. . . enter the blood and marrow of a people as
spirochetes do-unnamed, invisible-quite a long time after a lonely
thinker has set them loose in the silence of his study."2

You have to go back to Jeremy Benthem (d. 1832), identifying
happiness with utility, pleasure with profit. Back to James Mill (d.
1836), rigid utilitarian educating his small son on a philosophy of rigid
utilitarianism. And there was the son himself, John Stuart Mill (d.
1873). He began Greek and math at the age of three; at eight, he had
read Aesop, Xenophon, and Herodotus in the original, together with
masses of history; about 12, he was grappling with Aquinas and
Aristotle; at 13, political economy, Adam Smith. At 21, he broke
down, "victim of a dejection which robbed life not only of its pleasures
but also of its purpose."3 And the last word in that philosophical
assault may have been succinctly written in 1871 by an English
logician and political economist, William Stanley Jevons (d. 1882):
"Value depends entirely upon utility." This, I am afraid, is a thesis that
dominates much of American culture today: what is important is
usefulness, the profit I can extract from an experience or a
possession.
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For those who have gone to that History of Economics page on the New School
website, you might be interested in checking out the Henry George articles
which contains a letter from Milton Friedman. REH





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Henry George School of LA
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