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http://www.fdavidpeat.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Selma Singer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:35 PM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Indian Languages: Tending the Flame Arthur, I only have two of David Peat's books but it's such wonderful stuff! These guys are all talking about such important stuff.One of these days, if I get some time, maybe I'll try to summarize some of those ideas and see if anyone here is willing to talk about them Selma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:16 PM Subject: RE: NYTimes.com Article: Indian Languages: Tending the Flame > The wonders of the net. I sent this to David Peat who wrote the bio of > David Bohm and he sent back as follows: > > =========================== > Arthur > somewhat garbled. > The Rheomode part is correct. I invited Bohm to a dialogue between > Native American elders and Western scientists. It was there that Bohm > learned about the Algonkin family of languages - Micmac, Blackfoot, Cree, > Ojibwaj, Cheyenne. These are strongly verb-based and present the world > as a flux. Bohm realised that they used something similar to his > Rheomode. > > The MicMaq man would be Sa'ke'je Henderson (actually Cheyenne but living > on the MicMaq reserve. He never visited Bohm in hospital. Probably this > is a garbled version of the bio I wrote where Sa'ke'je and Leroy Little > Bear said Bohm was ill and during the passing of the peace pipe they > would give some of their energy to him. > > ================================ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:32 AM > To: futurework > Subject: Fw: NYTimes.com Article: Indian Languages: Tending the Flame > > > > > Ah, for the future of some real value work. Selma sent this to me and I > thought I would forward it to the list with this comment. David Bohm the > physicist was trying to invent a language that could admit the realities of > quantum physics. He called it Rheomode. Before he died he found an > extant language that did. It was the Algonquin of the Mic-Mac people and > he found it because of a Mic-Mac physicist who visited him in the hospital. > Do you think American physicists will study Algonquin? Dream on. > > I suspect this will be known as one of the darkest ages of history when the > knowledge of thousands of cultures was allowed to just disappear because of > the stupidity of the current civilization who just complains that their > children can't do a Latin version of grammar for the English language. > Only God knows what was contained in the language of the Etruscans. > > Oh well! > > Ray Evans Harrell > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:58 AM > Subject: NYTimes.com Article: Indian Languages: Tending the Flame > > > > This article from NYTimes.com > > has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Ray, I thought you might be interested in seeing this. > > > > Selma > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Indian Languages: Tending the Flame > > > > November 18, 2002 > > By DULCIE LEIMBACH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NAME: Intertribal Wordpath Society, Norman, Okla. > > > > FOUNDED: In 1997, by Alice Anderton, a former Comanche > > language teacher; Margaret McKane Mauldin, a Creek language > > expert; and other Oklahomans. > > > > MISSION: To advocate the teaching and elevate the status of > > Oklahoma-Indian languages in the state through classes in > > schools and universities, cable television, community > > groups and individual efforts. Part of a broader national > > effort to keep American Indian languages alive, Oklahoma's > > 24 indigenous tongues, all endangered, include Choctaw, > > Muskogee, Shawnee and Cherokee, which predominates with > > about 9,000 fluent speakers. The two Apache tribes in the > > state have three speakers between them. "These languages > > are endangered because of the demographics," Dr. Anderton > > said. "Only the elderly speak it. There are the Cherokee, > > Kickapoo and Choctaw tribes where children are still being > > raised with the language, but that is only a small > > minority." > > > > Dr. Anderton was teaching temporary jobs in linguistics at > > Oklahoma State University and the University of Oklahoma, > > but when the work disappeared, she set up a board > > consisting of linguistic experts and Oklahoma Indians, and > > designated herself executive, thus Wordpath was born. > > > > As chief gruntwork person, Dr. Anderton's main job is to > > help devise alphabets, write dictionaries and develop > > curriculums for language programs at other nonprofits in > > Oklahoma. Through her membership on the Ponca Language Arts > > Council, for example, Dr. Anderton was instrumental in > > putting together an alphabet for Ponca, because it lacked a > > standard form. > > > > "The language I'm most familiar with is Comanche," Dr. > > Anderton, who is not an American Indian, said. A Comanche > > hallmark is its singular, dual and plural way of addressing > > people. For instance, the most common way to greet someone > > is, "Tell it," which involves three grammatical endings, > > depending on whether you are talking to one person, two > > people or more than two people. > > > > FINANCING: Dr. Anderton is unpaid (she survives on speaking > > engagements and help from her family); Wordpath's $6,000 > > annual budget comes mostly from Oklahomans and small grants > > from sources like the Endangered Language Fund at Yale > > University and the Oklahoma Humanities Council. > > > > LATEST PROJECT: In addition to "Wordpath," a cable > > television program about native Oklahoma languages, Dr. > > Anderton is writing brochures, starting with the topic > > "What Is Fluency?" "The idea is to try to encourage people > > to do more work in their own language, before it's too > > late," Dr. Anderton explained. As Richard A. Grounds, > > director of the Yuchi language program in Sapulpa, Okla., > > said, the languages "are tied to ceremonial traditions and > > offer cultural knowledge." The surge in interest in > > medicinal plants among non-Indian groups, including > > pharmaceutical companies, could benefit from such > > information. "The languages represent thousands of years of > > close interaction with the environment," Mr. Grounds said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/18/giving/18LEIM.html?ex=1038627909&ei=1&en=a > b79246a7f514b1a > > > > > > > > HOW TO ADVERTISE > > --------------------------------- > > For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters > > or other creative advertising opportunities with The > > New York Times on the Web, please contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit our online media > > kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo > > > > For general information about NYTimes.com, write to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company
