----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ray Evans Harrell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Indian Languages: Tending the Flame

I think it is essential to be clear about the difference between what a
language conveys about a way of life and that way of life as it has been
distorted over centuries of abuse.

Selma



> Selma Singer:
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > Did you ever consider the possibility that the very languages that are
> > becoming obsolete contain ways perceiving the world that include a sense
> of
> > connectedness, the lack of which is the reason why kids often sniff glue
> or
> > alcohol or whatever ?
>
> Yes, of course.  But too many of the communities I've seen are disconected
> at both the adult and the kid level.  The adults drink and the kids sniff
> gas.  Only the elders retain the connectedness --- and despair about it
all.
> Social workers, both Native and white, work hard to try to patch things
up,
> but they can't do it.  It's too hard.  One woman from northern Alberta
told
> me "We'll worry about culture and language after we get this place cleaned
> up!"
>
> > Not that we can easily or simply transfer the values of lost cultures to
> our
> > own, but they can certainly make us aware of human experiences from
which
> we
> > may have a lot to learn.
>
> Indeed.  I've often wondered what it would have been like to be a mammoth
> hunter.  I've not wondered what it would be like to be a Native hunter and
> trapper in the late nineteenth or early twentieth century.  There is
plenty
> of literature, and most of it is very painful.  Hoping that your family
> would not die of starvation and disease while you were away at the trading
> post to beg for food and medicine could not have been very pleasant.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Weick
> 577 Melbourne Ave.
> Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7
> Canada
> Phone (613) 728 4630
> Fax     (613)  728 9382
>
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "futurework"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Indian Languages: Tending the Flame
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > > You sound like an economist.    My former student and my daughter's
> God
> > > > mother Jane Lind is Aleut.    She is a world class actress who has
> > > performed
> > > > all over the world including Peter Brooks "The Birds" and the Serban
> > > "Greek
> > > > Trilogy" in Athens and in the amphitheater at Epidoris.     Theater
> > > > Communications Journal called her one of America's treasures.   She
> has
> > > > recieved most of the awards in the business.    She has spent the
last
> > few
> > > > years working with and rescuing the indigenous theater and art forms
> as
> > > well
> > > > as the music and language in Alaska.    There is a great wealth
there
> > and
> > > it
> > > > would be crime to let all of that experience and richness disappear.
> > > Like
> > > > I said it is a dark age akin to the burning of the library at
> > Alexandria.
> > > > (I'll probably catch hell for that comparison.)
> > > >
> > > > Ray Evans Harrell
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ray and Selma,
> > >
> > > I don't mean to sound like an economist and, deep down inside, I do
> mourn
> > > the passing of languages and of culturally different lenses for seeing
> > > reality.   When I spent a lot of time in the Mackenzie Valley, the
Yukon
> > and
> > > other northern places during the past four decades, I tried very hard
to
> > see
> > > the world the way Native people of those places saw it.  I couldn't of
> > > course, at least not completely.  What ever so many young Native
people
> > were
> > > trying to do at the same time was see the world as I saw it.  They had
a
> > > much easier time of it than I did because things were loaded in my
> > direction
> > > and the direction of my society.  Their society, at least in its
> > traditional
> > > forms, was passing, mine was ascending.  Many of them became
politicians
> > and
> > > bureaucrats able to operate in my world far better than I could ever
> have
> > > hoped to operate in theirs.  They are still able to operate in their
> > world,
> > > though it is no longer the world in which they work or depend on, so
it
> > may
> > > be fading for them.
> > >
> > > That is the upside story.  The downside is something else that I've
seen
> > > many, many times as well.  It's young kids, laughing at a grandmother,
> > > because she is giving them hell in a native language they no longer
> > > understand.  Or it's teens, trying to be oh so cool, oh so modern,
just
> > like
> > > they've seen on TV.  Or it's far, far worse than that: sniffing gas,
> doing
> > > drugs, and not really being able to see reality through any kind of
lens
> > at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > Things pass.  It's sad, and one can only hope that the outcome is not
> > > destructive.  Often it is.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > Ed Weick
> > > 577 Melbourne Ave.
> > > Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7
> > > Canada
> > > Phone (613) 728 4630
> > > Fax     (613)  728 9382
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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