Bruce, Karen and Harry, I'm not going to talk behind one's back on this. Harry lives in an area that is notorious for its use of water. That us is both wealthy individual and corporate. California in dealing with such individuals has the most state dept in the country and more debt than many of the other states put together. But that is not real to me as it must be to Harry. What is real is my own experience with the market and corporations. For over forty years the major Corporation on the reservation that I grew up on was the Eagle-Picher Corporation. They provided all of the jobs, suppressed the studies of what the lead and other heavy medals were doing to the children and told the kids that it was safe to swim in lead laden mill ponds that had crystal like clarity due to the chemicals in the water. Not only that but it was said the fish were safe to eat as well. And they did since many of the miners were Catholics. The largest of the slag piles called chat piles was flattened at 400 feet in height and covered 80 acres. All of the rest can be seen at http://www.homestead.com/schehrer2/index.html BUT don't look for any Indians. Even in the town where most of the Quapaw live there will be a hole as large as a cave-in. I guess that is where we all went, down that hole when the white miners came. And I do mean white because there were no Orientals and Blacks were not allowed to spend the night. The entire county was closed to blacks. The only way they could do that of course was by virtue of the fact that they leased the land from the Quapaws and being government land and a special entity the mine owners could eliminate a whole race from the county. Today they have erased the Indians as well. But you will hear a little up close and personal view of the government when at one point he speaks of the "great industrialization" of the past and poo poos the pollution issue calling it a government invented problem. I think he got too much lead dust in his brain. But the pictures are true and my old house is even included. The shacks are real and still existed when I was there. There are now many more holes in the ground than he notes and most of these places are ghost towns.
WATER: Now back to the water issue. The mines didn't protect the aquifer when they closed so the polluted alkaline and heavy metal laden water has now polluted the aquifer for three states and is spreading. As for the private oil corporations, they put high pressure boiling salt water into their wells to get the last little bit of oil out. As a result they too have caused a huge problem with the aquifer. I believe it is called the Rubideaux Aquifer if my memory serves me correctly. How do I know this? I had relatives working on those wells and they told me but they don't tell Congress and the Corporations who have individual protection under the incorporation law don't have to tell. But it is a coming hell and asbestos suits won't help when you can't drink. But that is OK, it will just create more jobs trying to find the solution to creating fresh water from the seas. That is the way Western thinking works. If the point is to create jobs then making a mess and cleaning it up is an exercise in the creation of jobs and the future of work. They call it "development" and "progress" you go figure. Ray Evans Harrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Leier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ray Evans Harrell'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad McCormick, Ed.D.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Harry Pollard'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] "One word: 'coal'" "Yessir." (From: The Yale 68 Skull and Bones Graduate) > Ray, > > Well said. Maybe Harry is right to criticize me for blaming it on > corporations. But then maybe not! Don't all the greed-heads and > destroyers use corporate cover? > > Bruce Leier > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:05 PM > > To: Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; Bruce Leier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: 'Harry Pollard' > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] "One word: 'coal'" "Yessir." (From: The Yale > 68 Skull and > > Bones Graduate) > > > > Of course the earth cries and Harry never tires of saying that we have > all > > of that coal but what he doesn't say is that you will have to destroy > much > > of the Rocky Mountains to get it out. Colorado as the new West > Virginia. > > I would feel bad for all of these Republican Ranchers but the only > reason > > they are crying is because it is THEIR ranch and not some one else. > They > > have two senators in Congress and less than a million people. Their > > senator was that colorful character Alan Simpson, who now teaches at > the > > Kennedy School at Harvard and who stuck us with more than a few of the > > inadaquate conservatives on the Supreme Court while trashing Anita > Hill a > > graduate of Fundamentalist Oral Roberts University and who was born > and > > raised in my father's hometown Morris, Oklahoma in the Creek Nation. > > Well, folks, I've been there. My hometown Picher is their future > and > > before they had their burning water we had tar creek where children > played > > and absorbed lead, zinc, cadmium, mercury and other heavy metals. > Horses > > waded in the creek and the alkaline water ate the hair right off their > legs. > > > > These Republican Wyomans had better grow to like the Gowanus Canal in > > Brooklyn which also burns and they may as well get used to polluted > > aquafers, ground that will grow nothing because it has been so chewed > up for > > the coal that it is an unworkable stone and dirt mix, and bad water > brined > > with salt and sulphur. To hell with beauty. Down with the > > environment. After all this is the world and they are NOT of this > world > > but simply in it for a time, as they will tell you themselves if you > listen > > truly to what they are saying. > > > > Of course that whole area is one giant Caldera and it is bound to blow > at > > some point or other. When it does, it will be worse than the > Asteroid > > everyone keeps speaking about and could mean the end of humanity but > until > > then George W. will tweak the sleeping beast and try to steal a few > golden > > scales off of the sleeping dragon. Gollum, Gollum? Is it any > wonder > > that the commercial artists are making so many movies about dragons > these > > days with methane breath? > > > > Once its done, maybe they can turn it into something like Central City > with > > the Opera and gambling. But in order to have that kind of business > on > > ruined used up land you need a big city next door like Denver and they > don't > > have that. It will take more than Metamusal to keep "Old Faithful" > Geyser > > working in this sick environment. In flow and out go and that is > all that > > matters in the world right? Shall I talk about the morals of the > > "wretched refuse" or the "walking wounded" again or maybe I should > just talk > > about all of those rich folks who are creating another Venezuala right > here > > in the good ole' US of A. In flow and out go? Maybe that is the > key to > > how that Caldera is going to blow and we are all going to die. > > > > REH > > > > > > > > December 29, 2002 > > Ranchers Bristle as Gas Wells Loom on the Range > > By BLAINE HARDEN and DOUGLAS JEHL > > > > > > GILLETTE, Wyo. - As it runs through Orin Edwards's ranch, the Belle > Fourche > > River bubbles like Champagne. The bubbles can burn. They are methane, > also > > called natural gas, the fuel that heats 59 million American homes. Mr. > > Edwards noticed the bubbles two years ago, after gas wells were > drilled on > > his land. The company that drilled the wells denies responsibility for > the > > flammable river. > > > > An hour's drive west, the artesian well on Roland and Beverly > Landrey's > > ranch has failed. After producing 50 gallons a minute for 34 years, > the > > well, the ranch's only source of water, stopped flowing in September. > A well > > digger who examined it blames energy companies drilling for gas > nearby, but > > the companies dispute that. So the couple - he is 83 and ailing; she > > describes herself as "no spring chicken" - hauls water in gallon jugs > and > > drives 30 miles to town weekly to wash clothes and bathe. > > > > Dave Bullach, a welder who lives near Gillette, couldn't take it > anymore. > > For two sleep-deprived years, he endured the incessant yowl of a > methane > > compressor, a giant pump that squeezes methane into an underground > pipeline. > > There are thousands of these screaming machines in Wyoming, where > neither > > state nor federal law regulates their noise. Mr. Bullach stormed out > of his > > house at midnight last year with a rifle and shot at the compressor > until a > > sheriff's deputy hauled him off to jail. > > > > This is the cantankerous world of energy extraction in the Rocky > Mountain > > West, where natural gas is abundant and cheap to remove, and where the > Bush > > administration, in its aggressive push to increase domestic energy > > production, is on the brink of approving the largest-ever gas-drilling > > project on federal land. Here in Wyoming's Powder River Basin, the > Bureau of > > Land Management says that early next year it will give final approval > to the > > drilling of 39,000 wells on eight million acres. > > > > With natural gas consumption expected to soar in the next two decades, > no > > one questions the need for new sources of this clean-burning fossil > fuel. > > What alarms ranchers, along with environmental groups, is the hugely > > disruptive process of getting gas out of all those wells. > > > > It is a 15-year-old drilling technique called coal-bed methane > extraction, > > which can turn ranches and prairies into sprawling industrial zones, > laced > > with wells, access roads, power lines, compressor stations and > wastewater > > pits. > > > > Stoking local outrage, the split nature of land ownership in much of > the > > West, with mineral rights owned separately from surface rights, allows > > energy companies to operate on ranchers' land without their consent. > > Environmentalists also doubt whether energy companies can actually > remove - > > in a way that is profitable and ecologically sound - the enormous > amounts of > > methane that federal experts say is available in Western coal seams. > > > > "Ranchers have never truly thought much of tree-hugging > environmentalists," > > said John Dewey, 76, who owns a small cattle ranch outside Sheridan, > Wyo. > > "But with these methane boys on our land, we are starting to see these > > environmentalists as conservationists who want to help us preserve > land for > > our kids." > > > > Most natural gas in the Rocky Mountain West lies fairly close to the > > surface, in coal seams, trapped under huge aquifers. To get to the > gas, > > water is pumped out, peppering the landscape with large numbers of > > relatively cheap and shallow wells. > > > > Oddly, in an arid region prone to persistent drought, the primary > waste > > product - and environmental threat - of extracting coal-bed methane is > > water, in phenomenal amounts. In the Powder River Basin, for example, > > drillers are expected to pump out 3.2 million acre-feet of water - as > much > > as New York City uses in two and a half years. > > > > It is primarily this immense draining of aquifers by thousands of > wells that > > makes drilling for coal-bed methane so environmentally intrusive. > > Conventional gas wells are usually much deeper and more expensive to > dig, > > and do not drain huge quantities of groundwater. > > > > This water can, of course, be a godsend to ranchers - if it is not too > salty > > and shows up in a convenient place and in usable amounts. But if the > water > > is contaminated with salts, as much of it is in Wyoming and across the > West, > > it can turn pasture barren. > > > > In addition, coal-bed methane wells often produce far more water than > a > > rancher can conceivably use. Besides causing damaging erosion, too > much > > water can sharply lower water tables, sometimes for decades, while > drying up > > nearby wells and ruining natural springs used by wildlife. Methane > drilling > > can also send unwanted gas into nearby stock troughs, house wells and > creek > > beds. > > > > These consequences can make ranchers loathe companies that extract > methane. > > > > "Polarization and demonization are absolute hallmarks of drilling for > > coal-bed methane," said Mickey Steward, director of the Coal Bed > Methane > > Coordination Coalition, a Wyoming group that tries, and often fails, > to make > > peace between agitated ranchers and impatient producers. Energy > producers > > stopped giving the group money, complaining that it was too > sympathetic to > > ranchers and environmentalists. The coalition now relies on state and > county > > taxes. > > > > "On one side, the producers feel very strongly they are helping to > preserve > > the American way of life," Ms. Steward said. "On the other side, > drilling is > > changing the lives of ranchers who are just not used to having anybody > > affect where they live except for themselves." > > > > Compounding the anger is the fractured ownership of land in much of > the > > Rocky Mountain West. Far more than in other parts of the country with > oil > > and gas reserves, landowners here do not own the wealth under them. > Farmers > > and ranchers settled more than 30 million acres of the West under the > Stock > > Raising Homestead Act of 1916. The act's rules, in almost all cases, > granted > > mineral rights not to homesteaders but to the federal government. > > > > Companies that lease these rights from the Bureau of Land Management > have > > access to ranch land, whether ranchers want them there or not. > Producers > > almost always try to make surface-use agreements with ranchers. But > even > > without landowner consent, federal law allows them to build roads, > > pipelines, power lines, compressor stations and well pads, as well as > to dam > > gullies and build wastewater reservoirs. > > > > "Ways of life are being changed for the purpose of energy extraction," > said > > Jim Ventrello, a Republican county commissioner in Delta County, > Colo., "and > > it is not the quality of life that we seek here." > > > > That overwhelmingly Republican rural county in western Colorado banned > > coal-bed methane operations this year. "We heard horror stories from > other > > places in the West," Mr. Ventrello said, "and we decided not to allow > this > > to go forward unless we can make sure it is done right." > > > > Delta, though, is one of only two counties in the West to slam the > brakes on > > coal-bed methane. While energy companies are vigorously challenging > the > > county moratoriums in the courts, coal-bed methane extraction is > continuing > > to hurtle forward across much of the West, thanks to policies put in > place > > by the Clinton administration and accelerated under President Bush, > with the > > encouragement of state governments that rely on tax money from gas > drilling. > > > > The Need for More Gas > > > > > > The eagerness of energy companies and the Bush administration to > produce > > more coal-bed methane can be explained by these numbers: The United > States > > consumes about 23 trillion cubic feet of natural gas a year, nearly > all > > domestically produced. By 2020, demand is expected to jump by about a > third, > > according to government projections. > > > > The main hope for finding supplies to meet that demand in the long > term is > > the Gulf of Mexico, the country's single largest natural gas resource. > But > > energy companies and the White House see coal-bed methane from the > interior > > West, the country's second-largest gas resource, as a vital part of > the > > short-term solution. > > > > The cost difference between conventional and coal-bed methane drilling > is > > extraordinary. A conventional well on land usually costs several > million > > dollars. An offshore well costs tens of millions. A coal-bed methane > well > > can be dug for about $90,000. > > > > Coal-bed methane accounts for only about 9 percent of the country's > proven > > natural gas reserves, or less than one year's production at current > > consumption levels, according to the Energy Department. But over the > last > > decade, estimates of likely reserves have soared. > > > > The federal Energy Information Administration has described the > Rockies as > > having the potential to become "a Persian Gulf of natural gas." > > > > There are serious questions, however, about how real that potential > is. "In > > the 1970's, oil shale was hailed as our energy salvation, and it > turned into > > a huge bust," said Pete Morton, an economist with the Wilderness > Society. > > "This could be history repeating itself." > > > > In a new assessment released in mid-December, the United States > Geological > > Survey said coal seams in five Western basins, including Powder River, > might > > contain a total of 42 trillion cubic feet of additional gas. The > agency, > > which said in 1995 that Powder River probably held undiscovered > coal-bed > > methane resources of 1.5 trillion cubic feet, raised that estimate to > 14.3 > > trillion cubic feet in its current study. > > > > Another study, commissioned by the Energy Department and released in > > December, was even more optimistic. It estimated undiscovered coal-bed > > methane in the basin at 39 trillion cubic feet, or nearly two years' > worth > > of national consumption. > > > > Even if they are accurate, such estimates often gloss over how much > gas is > > economically recoverable. In the Powder River Basin, the Energy > Department > > study said that as much as 29 trillion cubic feet might be recovered > in a > > cost-effective way. But it noted that the number could vary widely, > > depending on how particular environmental safeguards were adopted. > > > > Environmentalists say any realistic cost-benefit analysis makes > coal-bed > > methane look much less rosy. > > > > More Drilling Than Grazing > > > > > > In the San Juan Basin of New Mexico, where ranch land is as rugged as > any in > > the West, gas wells outnumber cattle two to one. Over the last 15 > years, the > > basin has been the pioneer in the coal-bed methane process. > > > > Pinon and juniper woodlands are interwoven with thousands of miles of > roads > > and pipelines. With 20,000 gas wells in production and at least 10,000 > more > > planned, a swath of federal land the size of Connecticut accounts for > 80 > > percent of the coal-bed methane produced in the United States. > > > > Increasingly, however, the state's pride in coal-bed methane, which is > a > > major source of tax revenue, is mixed with misgivings. Ranchers like > Tweeti > > Blancett, a sixth-generation New Mexican, warn that a fragile balance > > between production and conservation is falling badly out of whack. > > > > "We are a multiple-use land, and we understand that," Ms. Blancett > said the > > other day, bouncing along roads rutted by drilling rigs and water > tankers on > > land that is owned by the federal government but leased for both > ranching > > and energy exploration. "But we want industry to understand that there > are > > other users out there." > > > > Ms. Blancett, a lifelong Republican, was Mr. Bush's political > organizer in > > northwestern New Mexico for the 2000 presidential campaign. In > November, she > > and her husband, Linn, and two other ranching families locked out > energy > > companies whose plumbing of the gas beneath the surface of the land, > they > > say, threatens their livelihood. > > > > They call it an act of desperation. The industry has derided it as a > > publicity stunt. But many in New Mexico describe it as emblematic of a > > growing unease about the effect of coal-bed methane on the state's > landscape > > and the ranchers' way of life. > > > > "It would be disingenuous to pretend that there aren't impacts," said > Steve > > Henke, director of the land management bureau office in Farmington, > N.M. He > > oversees nearly all energy exploration in the basin because the > federal > > government owns all but a tiny fraction of the land. > > > > "If people are looking for peace and quiet and solitude, they're not > going > > to find it in the oil patch," Mr. Henke said. > > > > Oil and gas exploration is not new to the basin. The first drilling > rigs > > arrived nearly a half-century ago. But it was not until the late > 1980's, > > when drilling began to increase, that the relationship between > ranchers and > > energy companies turned adversarial. > > > > "It may be a clean fuel," said Don Schreiber, a rancher who joined the > > Blancetts and another rancher, Chris Velasquez, in locking out the > energy > > companies, "but it is a very dirty business." > > > > Across the basin, energy exploration occupies 8 percent of the land. > > Coal-bed methane production has pumped out 5.8 billion gallons of > > groundwater since the late 1980's. Nearly all of this water - most of > it > > unsuitable for drinking or agriculture - has been reinjected deep > > underground. > > > > Energy leases in the San Juan Basin date from the 1950's and 1960's, > long > > before coal beds were explored for natural gas. The leases have > allowed > > producers broader latitude than would be permitted under tighter > > environmental regulations today. > > > > Ranchers say the effects have been upsetting, including cattle killed > by > > traffic and spilled chemicals, and erosion set in motion by roads, > pipelines > > and drilling pads. > > > > The land bureau concedes that its oversight has failed to keep pace, > and it > > has stepped up enforcement. Partly because of the impact of drilling, > the > > bureau has reduced the number of cattle it allows to graze on federal > land. > > The year-round total is now fewer than 10,000 head, down from the > hundreds > > of thousands that roamed the dry highlands early this century. > > > > In financial terms, ranchers in the basin have become insignificant > tenants > > on federal land. They pay the government a total of about $100,000 a > year > > for grazing rights. Energy companies pay about $350 million in federal > > royalties on gas they produce. > > > > Against that backdrop, Mr. Henke says it may be wrong to imagine that > the > > interests of ranchers and energy production can be balanced to the > > satisfaction of all. > > > > "Ranchers are losing out to the energy industry in terms of their > capability > > to grow grass," Mr. Henke said. > > > > "Stepping back, though, what's in the public interest? It's not that > this > > area is unsuited to ranching. But we've got a world-class gas resource > > here." > > > > The Big Gas Play in Wyoming > > > > > > Early next year, the federal regulatory gates are set to swing open in > the > > Powder River Basin. When they do, there is almost certainly going to > be a > > rush by ranchers to hire lawyers and file lawsuits. > > > > Part of the reason is split ownership of land. Of the eight million > acres in > > the basin, three-quarters of the surface rights are privately owned, > while > > about two-thirds of subsurface rights are federally owned and leased > to > > energy companies. > > > > These numbers mean that most of the basin's 4,000 ranch families will > have > > no choice but to put up with strangers on their land for the next 10 > to 15 > > years. Except for nominal access fees, most ranchers will get little > > financial benefit from the hundreds of millions of dollars in gas > revenue > > generated beneath their land. > > > > As it is in the San Juan Basin, the land bureau will be charged with a > > seemingly impossible task. Under orders from the Bush administration - > which > > requires the agency to fill out an "energy impact statement" whenever > it > > denies a drilling permit - the agency is expected to cut through red > tape > > and make it easy for drilling companies to get to work fast. > > > > But the agency will also have to deal with increasingly angry > ranchers, > > litigious environmental groups and a nervous state on Wyoming's > northern > > border. They have all had a sneak preview of the fuss coal-bed methane > can > > cause. > > > > So has Wyoming's governor-elect, Dave Freudenthal, a Democrat. He > believes > > that the ranchers' restiveness and the threat of environmental damage > from > > coal-bed methane are "huge problems," said his chief of staff, Phil > Noble. > > > > Drilling began about five years ago on state and private land in the > Powder > > River Basin. More than 15,000 wells are already in the ground. While > many > > have been well managed, some have triggered uncontrolled water runoff, > > flooded pastures, eroded land and pumped large amounts of salty water > into > > streams and creeks. > > > > Rivers from the basin flow north to Montana, where irrigators have > pressured > > their own government to demand strict limits on the salinity of the > water > > that comes out of Wyoming. > > > > In the last year, the land bureau has lost two court challenges to its > > environmental plan for opening federal lands to gas drilling in the > basin. A > > rewrite of the plans is expected in January, and the agency says it is > ready > > to handle the permitting of 39,000 new wells, while protecting the > > environment. > > > > "We have staffed up to handle the situation," said Richard Zander, > resource > > manager for the agency in Buffalo, Wyo. "Our intent is not to leave a > scar > > on the land." > > > > Local environmental groups and many ranchers are skeptical. They point > out > > that federal and state law does not require energy companies to repair > all > > drilling damage. Companies do have to put up bonds, but they cover > only the > > removal of drill pads and water impoundment ponds - not the removal of > roads > > and other scars. > > > > Ranchers can negotiate binding surface agreements to cover such > damage, but > > to do so they need legal help. > > > > "If you have enough money to spend on lawyers, you might get > somewhere," > > said Jill Morrison, senior organizer for the Powder River Basin > Resource > > Council, a local environmental group. > > > > Then, as always in the arid West, there is the question of water. > Little of > > the 3.2 million acre-feet of water pumped out in the Powder River > Basin will > > be pumped back into the ground. Companies say it is too expensive. > Some > > water will naturally filter back into the ground, and some can be used > for > > livestock or crops, but the federal government estimates that 57 > percent to > > 85 percent will be lost to runoff and evaporation. > > > > Neither Wyoming nor the federal government assigns any monetary value > to the > > wasted water, state and federal officials say. Accordingly, energy > companies > > need pay nothing for its disappearance. > > > > Because of the water issue - and the high probability that drilling in > the > > Powder River Basin will disturb wildlife - one prominent energy > executive in > > Wyoming says that coal-bed methane drilling cannot be considered > > environmentally sound. > > > > "Looking after the Earth is a pay-as-you-go process, but they don't > have a > > plan like that here," said Raymond Plank, chairman of the board of > Apache > > Corporation, one of the largest independent natural gas and oil > companies in > > the United States. It does not operate coal-bed wells in Wyoming. > > > > "What happened here is ready, fire, aim," Mr. Plank said. > > > > He said that if energy companies had to pay for the water they waste, > as > > well as put up bonds to cover all costs of restoring land when wells > run > > dry, they would not make money in the basin. > > > > "I don't happen to think that this gas here is probably economically > viable > > with responsible land and water practices," he said. > > > > Mr. Plank, it should be noted, has a Wyoming rancher's bias. A > 20,000-acre > > ranch he has owned for decades and recently donated to a nonprofit > > foundation has been scarred by coal-bed methane drilling. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Bruce Leier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "'Harry Pollard'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:30 PM > > Subject: [Futurework] "One word: 'coal'" "Yessir." (From: The Yale 68 > Skull > > and Bones Graduate) > > > > > > > There is a "wonderful" article in today's NYT about a new > > > kind of fiver which the extraction of natural gas from the coal > > > in Wyoming has produced: "Ranchers Bristle as Gas Wells > > > Loom on the Range" (p.A1). THis new kind of river bubbles > > > (people always liked the bubbling stuff in Yellowstone > > > or is it Yosimite?...), and you can ignite it [should help > > > ranchers see on moonless nights?]. > > > > > > You all know how I love the beauties of nature. So I saved > > > the picture in case you miss it. It's like something > > > out of Werner Herzog's powerful film about the First Gulf War: > > > > > > Lessons of Darkness > > > > > > But with a difference: In Kuwait, all the lakes were > > > covered with oil (or were oil in toto) but they deceptively > > > *looked* like water. This stuff obviously is not just > > > Poland Spring.... > > > > > > http://www.users.cloud9.net/~lcp/gaswater.jpg > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > \brad mccormick > > > > > > -- > > > Let your light so shine before men, > > > that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16) > > > > > > Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21) > > > > > > <![%THINK;[SGML+APL]]> Brad McCormick, Ed.D. / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Visit my website ==> http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Futurework mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
