I also wonder what would have happened if anyone in Ed's company town woke up one morning and decided to write an essay on deforestation, the need for recycling, conservation, saving old growth forest, etc. Might have found folks a bit less friendly.
arthur -----Original Message----- From: Selma Singer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:56 PM To: Ed Weick; Brad McCormick, Ed.D.; Charles Brass Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] The world of work Ed, It's interesting to hear your description of the benevolence of that company because the Amoskeag situation, when they were doing well, was very similar. The relationship between the workers, middle management and the owners was excellent; there was mutual respect; many of the stories told of fierce loyalty on the part or employees; of being treated fairly and honestly, etc. etc. etc. However, when trouble came, i.e., too much competition and not enough work, instead of upgrading the machinery and/or trying to somehow reorganize in order to preserve jobs, the owners split the company into a manufacturing company and a holding company and took $18 million and put it in the holding company and the manufacturing company went down the tubes along with the 17,000 jobs. Many of the workers thought they had something to do with the accumulation of that $18 million and were resentful. "You do your work, you earn your pay"? whose work? whose pay? like Enron employees did their work and earned their pay? Like the Enron executives did their work and earned their pay? Selma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Charles Brass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] The world of work > Selma, when I was a teenager in the 1940s and 1950s I lived and worked in > company town, Ocean Falls, in way up coast British Columbia. It was a pulp > and paper town of some 3,000 in which the company owned everything, the > houses, the store, the hospital, the schools, the hotel. You name it, they > owned it. While one likes to think badly of capitalists, and many songs > have been sung about owing one's soul to the company store, it was a very > benevolent arrangement. Wages were good, rents were low, and everyone was > looked after. The company ran a swimming pool which produced kids that went > to the Olympics. It guaranteed summer employment, at good rates of pay, for > all of the kids that went to university, me included. It's high school > produced some of the best and brightest in British Columbia. That was my > experience of a company town. I would not have got the education and > opportunities I had if it had not been for a benevolent capitalist. > > Problem: A few years after I left, Ocean Falls shut down, never to be > repeated. It was taken over by a larger pulp and paper company, and its > operations were moved to Vancouver Island. No company town. No benevolent > capitalism. You do your work, you earn your pay. That's all. > > Ed > > Ed Weick > 577 Melbourne Ave. > Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7 > Canada > Phone (613) 728 4630 > Fax (613) 728 9382 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Charles Brass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Futurework] The world of work > > > > I am reading a most fascinating oral history of the Amoskeag Textile Mills > > in Manchester, NH. They were around from about the 1830s to the 1930s; at > > their peak they were the largest textile mill in the world with 17,000 > > workers, a million spiindles, etc. There are so many aspects of what has > > been discussed here that are manifested in these oral histories. One gets > > what I believe must be a rather complete picture from top management down > to > > the lowliest worker and horizontally across that entire world at the time > > from the apartments owned by the company to the relationships with the > city > > that was virtually founded by the mill owners, etc. > > > > A wonderful read. > > > > Selma > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Charles Brass" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] The world of work > > > > > > > > > > Brad McCormick: > > > > > > > My understanding of pre-Industrial (pre-Enclosure, etc.) life > > > > is a bit different: more like Brueghel paintings of peasants > > > > working-and-playing. Not what I would aspire to, but a lot > > > > better than being an early industrial worker. > > > > > > > > I read the stuff a long time ago, so the references are > > > > lost, but a large part of the "moral" rationalization of the > > > > industrial system was that the peasants worked little and > > > > drank/screwed a lot. My understanding is that > > > > peasants worked far fewer hours than early industrial > > > > workers. > > > > > > I don't disagree that peasants had their good times, like those Breughel > > > depicts in his paintings, but there were also very bad times. Being at > > the > > > bottom of the European class system prior to the industrial revolution > > meant > > > that you could suffer famines, wars, dispossession and general kicking > > > around. My own ancestors left Wuerttemburg or the southern Rhineland > > > probably in about 1815 or 1820 because the area had overrun by Napoleon, > > had > > > been pillaged blind by contending armies, had suffered crop failures and > > > starvation and was not a good place to live. Next, they appear to have > > > found themselves in central Germany, near Halle. I have no idea of what > > > they did there, or how they lived, but when Allexander II of Russia > freed > > > the serfs in the early 1860s the family migrated to the Ukraine to take > up > > > agricultural work. The conditions under which they lived and worked > while > > > there proved absolutely miserable and by the 1890s, they'd had enough > and > > > started back to Germany. By then central and eastern Europe had > > > industrialized and they wound up living and working in a textile center > > near > > > Lodz, Poland. My grandfather migrated to Canada in 1913, but my > > grandmother > > > and their seven kids remained stuck in one of the war zones of WWI. > Most > > of > > > them didn't make it to Canada until the later 1920s. > > > > > > I'm not saying that my family was chronically unhappy. It's probable > > that, > > > as it moved around, it's various members had good times and bad, perhaps > > > played music and danced, and probably went to church and commented > > > unfavourably on those who didn't. But everything I heard my > grandparents > > > say when I was a child suggested hard, hard times. Working in the > textile > > > industry near Lodz was one of their better times because they could save > a > > > little money, enough for my grandfather to buy passage to Canada, and > > > because several family members could get work. My father, who was > small, > > > agile and clever, began work in the textile mill at age seven because > kids > > > were needed to crawl into machinery and fix it so that it would not have > > to > > > be shut down. > > > > > > Breughel, who lived in the 16th Century when times may have been better, > > > painted happy peasants dancing. However, he also knew about the other > > side > > > of life. To see what I mean, go to: http://artchive.com/ftp_site.htm . > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > Ed Weick > > > 577 Melbourne Ave. > > > Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7 > > > Canada > > > Phone (613) 728 4630 > > > Fax (613) 728 9382 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Futurework mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
