You ask serious questions and pose serious issues.    This is my feeling about Marty who I have always had more than a bit of respect for.   I do feel that he misses the point however here and that he is being more than a bit political in his advice.   I would ask him instead in the spirit of Elijah and the Priests of Baal Ashtoreth when the Four Winds listened to him from the purity of his heart and saw through the Baal Priest's committment to more temporal political matters.
 
What would happen in the world if the Christian would truly confess his history, empty his jails, ask forgiveness from those they have judged, sell all of their goods and distribute their wealth wisely amongst the needy and truly accept the differences of their neighbors whether race, creed, gender or sexual orientation?     Work to create an equalitarian community in every case and respect and value the gift of vision wherever it is given irregardless of the spiritual tradition.    Accept the truth of perception and place the written word in the context in which it was and is meant throughout the rest of the world.    As an inadaquate witness apart from the lives and wisdom of the faithful.    What would happen if the Christian led the way, in the world, to that great city of peace and asked forgiveness of all mankind for the 2,000 years of arrogance and destruction that they have done in their period of adolescence in the world of religions.    Is it still not easier for a Camel to get through that needle than for a person of means to enter the Kingdom of Heaven?     They still seem to make the message of Esau their model and ignore Jacob.   Birthrights seem to come cheap in the camps of today.
 
There is a message here but I don't hear the theologians being willing to face it.    Do you Karen?   What do you think?
 
REH
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These are some offline comments about the President�s Pep Rally performance this week that I didn�t want to share with the whole list:

 

Not that you asked, but I thought his statements went well Thursday night before the questions were asked.  It is working out much better for him to use his baritone not his tenor voice and slow down.  Bartlett and Card must have read all the internet stories about his reputed Diet Coke addiction/ aspartame poisoning/ dry drunk syndrome and taken him off the canned stuff, because he looked like a tranquilized man until some of those multi-part questions sharpened his focus. 

 

Also note reporter Helen Thomas was absent from the front row for the first time in decades, stuck back in the middle and was not called upon.  She is persona non grata for making disparaging remarks off the record that someone put into print.  Also note that Bush called on Condon of the San Diego Union after giving him an interview earlier in the week that hinted at �non-governmental backlash� against Mexicans in this country if Mexico did not vote with the US on the UN resolution.  Can you believe that?  Was that a �wink and nod� to people who want to unleash racial hostility during wartime, to resurrect a new McCarthyism?  Whether he intended it or not, there are those elements in all societies who will take that as approval and act now.  See http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/07/opinion/07KRUG.html and http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20030303-1705-cnsbush.html)

 

I fear we are seeing the early stages of POTUS meltdown, caused by global stress, Spring in Iraq fever and not enough naps to counteract the effects of all those years of �legendary� drinking.  Those are not made up stories by the �liberal� press.  I know someone who used to �run� in the same circles and knows personally what binge drinking and skirt chasing with Bush and his buddy Don Evans meant.  Even if I apply my own 50% Rule and believe only half of the tales, it�s still significant.

 

By the way, Evans has a daughter who was born with disabilities severe enough to call for a lifetime of care.  This made him a grown up quickly and invite his friend George to Bible Study.  If you read Newsweek�s cover story, Bush and God, you will learn more about what drives GDubya, not just the neoconservatives who think America is the manifest destined New Rome with better weapons.  The Newsweek story covers the cultural and personal angles wrapped around current geopolitics and strategic realignments.  I�ve attached it for those interested.  Below, commentary accompanying the cover story. 

 

There is also some intriguing stuff sprouting up in the media about and reacting to a potentially �new McCarthyism�, immediately directed at Hollywood, but by expansion at those who are not True Believers. 

 

I�m not really that concerned about groups boycotting TV shows or movies that have actors in them they find unpatriotic, but the internet is serving as a neat place to rage for those who can�t make it into mainstream media who have liability issues to consider.  In times of peace, this targeted hatred is silly and ignorant, but in times of war and dissent, potentially much worse than that.  - KWC

 

The Sin of Pride

Vision Thing: A scholar wonders if Bush has the humility to see the nuance of this conflict

By Martin E. Marty
NEWSWEEK

 

March 10 issue�God bless America.� For decades, chief executives have acted like priests of the national religion. Sometimes they soothe�think of shuttle disasters or terrorist attacks�and sometimes they inflame, as in times of war.

 

Never have we historians been busier making sense of presidential God talk than now. We all knew that after a reckless youth and a fall into alcohol addiction, George W. Bush experienced a Christian conversion of the now standard �born again� sort and settled down. On the path to the presidency he saw that his newfound faith appealed to a core constituency of religious conservatives and they appealed to him. His religious rhetoric became more public and more political.

 

After September 11 and the president�s decision to attack Iraq, the talk that other nations found mildly amusing or merely arrogant has taken on international and historical significance. It rouses many Americans to an uncertain cause and raises antagonism among millions elsewhere. Few doubt that Bush is sincere in his faith, a worthy virtue when he alone must decide whether to lead 270 million people into war, possibly killing thousands of others. The problem isn�t with Bush�s sincerity, but with his evident conviction that he�s doing God�s will.

 

Some criticism comes from cynics abroad, who charge hypocrisy. George M. Cohan once said, �Many a bum show has been saved by the flag,� and these critics hear Bush�s God talk as a trumped-up strategy for saving a military bum show. All kinds of less suspicious voices have also been heard from clerics here at home. A few worry about whether Bush�s advocacy of �faith-based initiatives� for social programs would violate the traditional separation of church and state. More have political concerns; they fear the faith-based programs will replace governmental support for those in need, but will not be strong enough.


The concerns of world religious leaders about this war have not induced the White House to open its door to a broader theological debate. The pope and the American Roman Catholic bishops�as well as Protestant bishops and many other �lay and clerical leaders outside the president�s core constituency�got no hearing, only dismissal. These clerics have legitimate concerns that extend to the geopolitical scene�as well as to the American soul: how will the only remaining world power assume the burden of building a new empire? One hopes that the Bush people will keep in mind that claims of God�s always being on our side are alienating to many former or would-be allies.

 

More dangerous is that Bush�s God talk will set the tinderbox that is the Muslim world on fire. Neither the president nor the American Christian majority have to yield their own faith in order to get along, but how they express it matters. Here the president has shown signs of change and growth. His first understandable outburst against terrorism led him to call for a �crusade� against terrorists. Raging reaction was instant and total among offended Muslims. The term never again appeared in White House language.


Often the company the president keeps gets him into trouble. True, the administration distances itself from the most extreme statements against Islam and the Muslim Scriptures, the Qur�an, when clerics who are otherwise congenial to the White House voice them. The billion humans in the Muslim world, leaders and followers alike, had good reason to seethe when the evangelist who prayed at Bush�s Inaugural�and who remains close to the president�persisted in calling Islam �a very evil and wicked religion.�  The administration had to reject that claim�and it did.  Regular appearances by the president at meetings of certain evangelical groups, however, make it hard for friendly Muslims not to hear the word �Islam� whenever Bush portrays �terrorists� as absolute evils.  And, as evangelical theologian Richard Mouw points out, �Those inflammatory statements stimulate further antagonism on the part of Muslim extremists,� who can go recruiting among moderates.

 

Christian theologians are wary when Bush uses the words of Jesus to draw neat lines and challenge the whole rest of the world: if you are not for us, or with us, you are against us.  Without question, belief in American democracy as one of God�s blessings is part of the move against Iraq.  But, as theologians in a number of faiths remind us, the demonization of the enemy�an �us and them� mentality�can inhibit self-examination and repentant action, critical components of any faith.


Long having professed that �our nation is chosen by God and commissioned by history to be a model to the world of justice,� President Bush boasts that we are the only remaining superpower left.  He gives notice that our military power and moral choices will dominate the world.  He follows and leads ever since he first, as he put it, �heard the call� to seek the presidency, and after Iraq he promises to transform the Middle East into utopia.

 

But the Bible presents a more nuanced God.  Fifty years ago, patriot and cold warrior Reinhold Niebuhr, the most noted theologian of the time, reminded citizens of a judgment against pride of nations by quoting Psalm 2:4: God �who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord has them in derision.�  That same God, Niebuhr reminded readers, is also a God of mercy, who holds people responsible and, yes, will honor human aspiration.  Even Bush�s critics are obliged to see that many of our own convictions may be wrong or misguided.  And so we should confront the administration in the spirit of Oliver Cromwell: �I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken.�  One of this president�s virtues is that he has, historically, corrected his mistakes.


In the future, when Bush speaks about God and this country, as he assuredly will, one hopes he will heed the example of Abraham Lincoln.  In other desperate times Lincoln had to seek Almighty guidance for what he called this � almost chosen people.�  That president accompanied his seeking with a theological affirmation too rarely heard now: �The Almighty has His own purposes.�  These purposes may not always match our own, even if we are called to highest office.  Awareness of this might bring the nation and its political and religious leaders alike under judgment as we pursue, by our best lights, responsible action. 


Marty is professor emeritus at the University of Chicago, a Lutheran minister and a former president of the American Catholic Historical Association.

 

http://www.msnbc.com/news/879509.asp?0dm=C13UO

 

Also see Denomination criticizes Bush over Iraq action @ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41435-2003Jan25.html

 

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