I would like to share with you a vision that one of my friends had
concerning the siege and Sadaam.    He said that he saw the troops
surrounding Baghdad and at the appointed time Sadaam set off a nuclear blast
that destroyed the city and the American and British Armies.   He said that
this was done because in his apocolyptic mind he would be honored for a
thousand years for destroying an entire army of infidels at his door step
with the most complete of all suicide bombings.

I would point out that this is growing from the information that has been
put out to us from the various government agencies as to the state of mind
of a man who is about to die and who has seen the magnificence of his works
wiped clean from the earth with impunity.   There is a certain logic to it
given the information that we have been told about the Iraqi President and
his party.    On the other hand it doesn't register with me due to his sense
of history and because I don't believe that he values his own Sunni
population as slightly as the propaganda implies.    However, given that he
is supposed to have Weapons of Mass Destruction and given that a pregnant
women committed suicide today killing three American soldiers and her
child...... someone here is not connecting the dots or they are lying.

REH



----- Original Message -----
From: "pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Electric wire and rubber tires (fwd)


>
> Hi Harry:
>
> On Thu, 03 Apr 2003, Harry Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>  [I had written}
>
> >>To my thinking, I agree with the view that the moment the troops crossed
> >>the border, Bush had lost, it is just a matter now of waiting now to see
> >>how much and how badly, and how much can be salvaged by postwar
> >>bridge-mending and statesmanship (a concept so far apparently
> >>utterly foreign to the current administration)."
>
> >I happen to think there is chance we've all won. Don't let your lack of
> >appreciation for Bush to color your approach to everything.
>
> Well, I really hope so, but I fear just the opposite. And I really
> don't have any personal opinion about Bush as an individual, I
> watch actions, not personality. I like to always expect the best
> of everyone, and always assume clever and thoughtful motivation
> first, but I just really find it very hard to find a way to fit
> that model to the actions taken by this president. Ill advised
> domestic tax policy, rash foreign adventurism, lack of any concern
> for social or environmental issues, all combine to paint a picture
> of shallow thinking. Try to merge the idea of cautious, thoughtful,
> sharp analytical minds with american foreign relations actions to
> date, and you can only come up with scenarios of grave secret
> emergencies, desperate enough to justify sacrificing wide swaths
> of foreign relations. So the choice seems to be between conspiracy
> (or, I guess, paranoid fantasies of imagined threats), and stupidity.
>
> The point of my initial comment, if it must be spelled out, is
> quite simple. The discovery of instruments of torture does not make
> the war a better idea than it was, because their discovery was
> fully expected by those who have cautioned against the war, and
> won't influence the minds of people who see this as an unforgivable
> incursion of foreign infidels into their realm.
>
> The question I keep coming back to is what's the rush? Excessive
> speed seems to be the main feature of the folly here. Given a couple
> of years, much of the problem of Iraq could have been resolved
> peacefully and with no negative diplomatic consequences. An adjustment
> of the sanction regime to expose the Iraqi populace to western
> largesse could undermine the dictator's authority without any
> need for military action. How many Iraqi's could be won over
> to the american vision for the million dollar cost of each bomb
> and cruise missile spent in this war? Whenever I see a miilitary
> action, I consider how it looks through the filter of the adage:
> "do I not destroy my enemies if I make them my friends?"
>
>               -Pete Vincent
>
>
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