[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess it always gets back to the cause of the first cause: What gets the
mind to physically change the brain.

I would prefer to put is this way: "Why do we ask 'What causes the mind to physically change the brain?'", whereas persons in some other culture might ask 'How do we molify the spirits?'", or whatever.

Peoply simply cannot get cancer in a society
that has not constructed a taxonomy of
illness something like ours.  The people in such
a culture might find their bodies inhabited by
angry spirits, but they don't get cancer.

Or let me try this the other way around: How do
persons who have not come up with our idea
of cancer get the cancers we think they get --
FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW?  Even in our own society,
as recently as 100 years ago, we keep saying that
people died of breast cancer or some other
cancer but they didn't know it.  Well, they did
think *something*, and *that something*
was important in their lives as they lived those
lives.

But let's get closer to home: Persons in our
society tend to believe that managers and
employees exist.  Persons tend to treat
this difference as seriously as differences
from the mathematical sciences of objective
nature.  If persons didn't think this way,
people like Marx and Foucault might
have had to find different ares of research
(e.g., Freud's first love: worms).

So what?  At lesat part of teh "so what" is
for persons to appreciate that they are
shapers of their world and not just instances
in it.  I admit that my childrearing makes
me especially sensitive to this, since the
reality of my parents and tor-mentors was,
for me, miasmic.  I hasve previously written
how I "saw a light" when I read in Kuhn's
_The Structure of Scientific Revolutions_, that
old sscientific theories die, not because their
adherents get converted to the new theory, but
because they all DIE without being ablt to
recruit members of the next generation to carry
on their work.  THe thought that the
miasmic incubus world(?) of my social
milieu of origin would eventually all be dead
and gone was indeed, as last, a breath of
fresh air -- a small opening in the
unrelieved DENSITY of that form of life.

For persons to see themselves as transcendental
subjects of experience rather than as objects
in the object world, seems appealing to me.
I try to offer this vision to others, in the
belief they have generally not been childreared and
schooled to know about it, and that at least some
might find it an *appealing* transfiguration of their
experience of life -- sort of like giving
Ptolemy Mount Palomar....

"Yours in discourse [which constitutes our experienced
world, even if in the existentially
self-confuting form of constituting it
as something 'not constituted by us']...."

\brad mccormick


-----Original Message----- From: Selma Singer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:24 PM To: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] new book + Book that needs to be written


From what I can gather from the reviews, Schwartz and Begley make a very
different argument; they appear to be saying that the mind is an entity of
its own that can physically change the brain; from there, it seems they get
to the free will issue.

Selma


----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] new book + Book that needs to be written




Selma Singer wrote:

I have just ordered the book *The Mind and The Brain* by Jeffrey
Schwartz and Sharon Begley.

Has anyone read this? I found the reviews particularly interesting in
that he argues that we can use our minds to change the wiring of our
brains. Apparently he has considerable evidence from his work with
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Apparently he brings in all kinds of interesting stuff about free will
in regard to this newly discovered information from his studies.

I'm waiting for a book titled:


_The brain in the mind_

which would detail how contemporary schooled Western persons
constitute the notion of *brain*, and also manage to
*believe* that the mind is in the brain (like Medieval
persons used to believe in God, etc.).

\brad mccormick

--
  Let your light so shine before men,
              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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