What kind of society would put people in an area where they would be
sacrificed on a regular basis?    Sounds absolutely primitive to me.    Sort
of like needing the high speed limit in order to make sure that the God of
Transportation Economics (GOTE) gets his blood food on a yearly basis.
25,000 sacrifices last year alone.   I would add that thought like this was
one of the things that archeologists tell us did in the great city of
Kahokia just outside of the present city of St. Louis Missouri.   Once it
was one of the larger cities in the world.   The Mayans had a little
experience that with kind of thought also.    Save lives.   Give them all
Aquariums!

Ray Evans Harrell'


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> Arthur,
>
> For the life of me, I can't remember whether there were houses immediately
> around the St. Lawrence Cement Plant.
>
> This though I ran a cleaning crew there. Among my moppers and waxers were
> the Treasurer of Rubbermaid, a high executive in General Motors, several
> other mid-management types - and their wives.
>
> Imagine slightly overweight executives swinging those mops!
>
> That was in the fifties when things were great. Or, perhaps 'plus ca
> change, plus c'est la meme chose' - people still needed that extra cash.
>
> In a properly run economy, I don't think spot-zoning is needed. When
laying
> out a city, it's pretty obvious that industry should be down wind, for
> example. But actually, the conditions that restrain the possibilities of
> cement plants at the end of the streets is that it isn't very economic.
>
> Industries need high voltage, heavy current supplies, they need good water
> supplies and large sewers. None of these are found in or near residential
> areas. They want easy access to rail and highways.
>
> All a good city planner need do is put an industrial park with all these
> services in a preferred location and that's where industry will go. They
> simply can't afford to be in a residential area.
>
> However, housing sites near the cement plant are likely to be cheaper.
> People with little money may be able to afford a house there rather than a
> preferable but unaffordable location.
>
> This happens. During my first year in Toronto, Hurricane Hazel hit. People
> had been living along the shores of the Humber River for many years - even
> though they were flooded most springs.
>
> Hazel was a bit too much. Some 72 people died and people asked why did
they
> live there. Well, it was the cheapest place they could afford that
afforded
> them easy access to bus routes into the city. Not a desirable place, but
> one they could afford.
>
> It cost 72 of them their lives.
>
> Rather than that, the vicinity of a cement plant can be almost attractive!
>
> Harry
>
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>
> Arthur wrote:
>
> >I believe we were talking about the value or merit of zoning.  I tend to
> >favour them, it seems you tend otherwise.
> >
> >Without zoning a dump or cement factory could be developed in your
> >neighbourhood.  You seem to think that wouldn't happen.  Why?  In the
> >absence of zoning, what would prevent such an outcome??
> >
> >arthur
>
>
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