Interesting, Brad. There are indeed many ways of saying it, and probably in all languages. All you need is someone to say it to or something to say it about.
Ed
Well said.
I still think Freud pinned it all down very succinctly (yes, I have said it myself: Freud was not always consistent with himself, but I quote him not as an *authority* but because he said something I want to say better than I could have said it):
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/civil.html
The selfishness of individuals, as real as it is, pales in comparison with the omnivorous devouring of everything for their self-preservation and self-aggrandizement by what I call "ethnes" (pre-reflective forms of life).
Perhaps there are some ethnicities out there like the bononos (our supposed closest animal relatives), who spend their time pleasuring themselves and each other. But even one sacrificial lamb is one too many, even if it is a real sheep and not a person.
I readily confess (in part I do this as part of my aqttempt to cure myself...) to my own lemming feelings, my self-doubts when all around me are doing something idiotic and they look at me like I was the fool. What's wrong with me that I do not anoint myself with aluminun clorhydrate(sp?) like a normal person?
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/JustSoStories.html#11C
And, yes, surely Hitler was a really bad person. But also, as the cliche goes "The [fill in the blank] doth protest too much."
"Yours in discourse [which nobody in my social milieu of origin ever told me about...]...."
\brac mccormick
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad McCormick, Ed.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Karen Watters Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] US economic initiative in Middle East
Ed Weick wrote:
How do you say "Sieg Heil!" in American?
[snip]
Let's try some approximations:
I am not now, nor have I ever been....
When your manager says "Jump!", you ask "How high?" (--told to me by a "headhunter")
"I didn't hear you, you worthless piece of shit! Say it louder!" "Yes, *Sir!*" (--"Basic training", sic)
"Boolah! Boolah! Bow, bow, wow! E-li Yale!"
"Onward Chris-tian so-oldiers marching as to war....."
There *is* the tune which is played whenever our Leader appears in public:
Hail to the Chief
Has anyone noticed how much Condee.... looks like Adolf with her hair severely pulled down toward one eye. All she needs is the mustache.
Also, desn't "Sieg Heil!" mean something like "We shall be victorious!" -- "Heil Hitler!" was the *personalized* (cult of personality, etc.) salute/greeting, yes?
And does anyone really think their vote for U.S. President matters any more than attending a Nuremburg Rally for the Party?
Leave the crowds to crowd themselves. (--Apocryphal)
Leave enthusiasm to enthuse itself. (--ditto)
Students need to be taught to "reduce" all sentences of the form "X is Y" to: "Some person Z has asserted: "X is Y"." Example: Try to motivate someone to go on a suicide mission (note that I did not say "kamikaze mission", because "we" don't do such things...), by telling them: "Someone, as some time, has asserted in the illocutionary form of an exhortation to action, the proposition: "It is sweet to die for your country." ?
\brad mccormick -- Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
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