Ed,
I feel your economic bias is coming through.  I was trained in pedagogy and child development.  Children don't have to be taught to work.   It is one of their original instructions.   The problem with "work" is that the Western model is tied not to pleasure which makes the child learn and do more work in five years then they accomplish in the next lifetime but to drudgery and models that are not developmental of human potential.    Schools teach children not to have fun, succeed and grow but to conform and fit within a model that the world sees as "useful."    The problem is "use" as defined in utilitarian thought and particulate fragmentary knowledge bases.   But I've said this many times.   The ultimate usefulness is that which develops the finest human being.   Anything else is window dressing and transitory.   The Aztec called it "Flowers and Songs"     Flowers are pretty and nice but disappear, only the song exists as long as the human does.   But if you are singing everyone else's song and do not know your own then your wealth is valueless.   "Mockingbirds"    Learn to value and develop your own uniqueness.   Henry Ford was demonic and sold his soul.   Redefine economics around the terms of human potential rather than goods and services.   Until then you are doomed to fail and be annual in your recessions.
 
Ray Evans Harrell, artistic director
The American Masters Arts Festival Biennial
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Weick
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Workloads

Ed,
 
Are you advocating "From each according to his/her abilities to each according to his/her needs?"
 
REH

I don't think so, Ray, though I'm not really sure.  My vision of an ideal society is one which guarantees everyone housing of a reasonable quality, food for the family, access to education, and access to health services.  These things should be provided as rights whether people work or not.  People should not be demeaned or stigmatized if they have to access them.
 
To achieve such a world, certain values and ethics would have to be in place.  Very important would be valuing work as a contribution to society and a corresponding work ethic, instilled from childhood.  Another would be valuing human life and a recognition that we are our brother's and sister's keepers.  And, of course, the world would have to be affordable.
 
I don't know if such a world is possible, and it may be that people are too self-interested or cynical to buy into it if it were possible.  I know lots of self-interested and cynical people and very few who put altruism and the value of their fellow man to the forefront.  By viewing my own behavior, I'm not sure of where I personally fit in all of this.  If it were to come about, it would probably have to be imposed from the top, and I wonder if any government would have the courage to do it without resorting to smoke and mirrors, trying to convince people that they were getting something while giving them very little.
 
Anyhow, that is where I'd like to see things go, whether or not they ever do get there.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Workloads

Ed,
 
Are you advocating "From each according to his/her abilities to each according to his/her needs?"
 
REH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Weick
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Workloads

UNIFEM, the United Nation's Development Fund for Women lays out the road to
progress in greater detail:
    * Women's share of seats in legislative bodies should reach 50%
    * The ratio between girls' and boys' school enrollment rates should be
one to one
    * Average female weekly earnings as percentage of male weekly earnings
should equal 100%
    * Women's share of paid employment in the non-agricultural sector
should be expanded
    * Men and women should spend an equal number of hours on unpaid housework

Political power, education, type of work all these factors have an
influence on women's economic power....
 
Gail, I don't like this.  It strikes me as the tryanny of absolute equality.  What if, as may be possible, all of the women were geniuses and all of the men morons?  Or, can you think of the difficulty and fallout of a husband and wife keeping tabs on each other to ensure that they did an equal amount of house work?  "No, no, dammit!  I cooked dinner yesterday!  It's your turn!"  What I would most like to see is equal access to education, to careers, to the income hierarchy, and everything else that people do outside the home. 
 
When it comes to inside the home, partners have to work it out themselves.  He likes cooking; she doesn't.  Or she likes cooking; she doesn't.  Or however the household goes.  What would seem most important in the home is the kids.  Neither male nor female should feel they are restricted from becoming what they want to because of their sex.
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From: G. Stewart
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:15 PM
Subject: [Futurework] Workloads

Speaking of work and and trade, here is an item posted this AM to another list.
 
I'd be interested in comments. Do you think these are reasonable objectives for the World Bank and UN? Do you see around you or in your own life evidence of their accomplishment? 
 
The fourth objective of UNIFEM gives me some  trouble, at least until the third and fifth are advanced -- otherwise it seems to me that we get wage distortions that affect international trade, possibly reducing rather than enhancing the general welfare. Wage inequities produced by "discrimination per se" carry a continuing odour of slavery? Nor, I think, is the problem confined to women but is conspicuous there and links with other issues, e.g. caring for children, health, population, etc.
 
What think you? How is the issue developing in your own surroundings?
 
Gail
 
 
This Friday's NOW with Bill Moyers focused on how women are faring in the
global economy, with Vandana Shiva explaining in a live interview how
globalization increases women's workloads. For those who missed the show,
the NOW site on pbs.org http://www.pbs.org/now/  is worth a visit.
cheers, Penney

Sample:
Rich World, Poor Women: Women and Work

There is an old saying that you can judge a society by the way it treats
its women. In the last several decades many world organizations have signed
on to that belief making improvements in the status of women among their
highest priorities. The World Bank's Millennium Development Goals put it
broadly: "Goal Number 3: Promote gender equality and empower women."
UNIFEM, the United Nation's Development Fund for Women lays out the road to
progress in greater detail:
    * Women's share of seats in legislative bodies should reach 50%
    * The ratio between girls' and boys' school enrollment rates should be
one to one
    * Average female weekly earnings as percentage of male weekly earnings
should equal 100%
    * Women's share of paid employment in the non-agricultural sector
should be expanded
    * Men and women should spend an equal number of hours on unpaid housework

Political power, education, type of work all these factors have an
influence on women's economic power....
 
 
Gail Stewart
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