I think it's a bit of wishful pipe dream.  I can't think of any women I've encountered in positions of power in politics, business or the bureaucracy who operate differently from the way men operate.
 
Ed
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] V is for Volcano2

Dear Arthur, I must say I would have written the last sentence differently myself, repeating the title and finishing the political theme, “V is for Volcana, vote and victory.”

But I don’t think this can be called ‘male bashing’, if for no other reason than she did express the conviction that the patriarchal paradigm hadn’t been entirely healthy for men, either. I’ve reduced her speech to the points I found most interesting, below.

Karen

 

 

Let's hear it for a feminist paradigm.  Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher et. al.  really will change things.  Hmmm.

 

I thought we were beyond the era of "male bashing."

 

Perhaps Ms. Fonda's estrogen levels need a bit of a boost.  "V" for Vagina, for vote, for victory.

(or for vomit.)

 

arthur

 

 

Quote: "Maybe at some earlier stage in human evolution, Patriarchy was what was needed just for the species to survive. But today, there's nothing threatening the human species but humans. We've conquered our predators, we've subdued nature almost to extinction, and there are no more frontiers to conquer or to escape into so as to avoid having to deal with the mess we've left behind. Frontiers have always given capitalism, Patriarchy's economic face, a way to avoid dealing with its shortcomings. Well, we're having to face them now in this post-frontier era and inevitably -- especially when we have leaders who suffer from toxic masculinity -- that leads to war, the conquering of new markets, and the destruction of the earth.

 

However, it is altogether possible, that we are on the verge of a tectonic shift in paradigms -- that what we are seeing happening today are the paroxysms, the final terrible death throes of the old, no longer workable, no longer justifiable system. Look at it this way: it's Patriarchy's third act and we have to make sure it's its last."

 

V is for Volcano

By Jane Fonda, AlterNet, 112403, Viewed on 120103 @ http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17248

 

 Yes, men and boys receive privilege and status from patriarchy, but it is a poisoned privilege for which they pay a heavy price. If traditional, patriarchal socialization takes aim at girls' voices, it takes aim at boys' hearts -- makes them lose the deepest, most sensitive and empathic parts of themselves. Men aren't even allowed to be depressed, which is why they engage so often in various forms of self-numbing, from sex to alcohol and drugs to gambling and workaholism. Patriarchy strikes a Faustian bargain with men.

 

Patriarchy sustains itself by breaking relationship. I'm referring here to real relationship, the showing-up kind, not the "I'll stay with him cause he pays the bills, or because of the kids, or because if I don't I will cease to exist," but relationship where you, the woman, can acknowledge your partner's needs while simultaneously acknowledging and tending to your own. I work with young girls and I can tell you there's a whole generation who have not learned what a relationship is supposed to feel like -- that it's not about leaving themselves behind.

 

Another thing that I've learned is that there is a fundamental contradiction not just between patriarchy and relationship, but between patriarchy and Democracy. Patriarchy masquerades as Democracy, but it's an anathema. How can it be democracy when someone has to always be above someone else, when women, who are a majority, live within a social construct that discriminates against them, keeps them from having their full human rights?

 

But just because Patriarchy has ruled for 10,000 years since the beginning of agriculture, doesn't make it inevitable.

 

So, as Eve Ensler says, we have to change the verbs from obliterate, dominate, humiliate, to liberate, appreciate, celebrate. We have to make sure that head and heart can be reunited in the body politic, and relationship and democracy can be restored.

 

We need to really understand the depth and breadth of what a shift to a new, feminine paradigm would mean, how fundamentally central it is to every single other thing in the world. We win, everything wins, including boys, men, and the earth. We have to really understand this and be able to make it concrete for others so they will be able to see what Feminism really is and see themselves in it.

 

So our challenge is to commit ourselves to creating the tipping point and the turning point. The time is ripe to launch a unified national movement, a campaign, a tidal wave, built around issues and values, not candidates.

 

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