Behind in my male (heh, heh, heh), I pause in catching up to
note that *I* thought - given the limitations *and*
opportunities of the *genre* - Jane Fonda is RIGHT ON! 

Patriarchy and the public power of men is quite real and the
fact of some women in politics who behave like men doesn't
alter the basic point. One has to be careful not to be
essentialist about these things. It's not that there is some
"male essence" from which these bad behaviors follow; but
there are tendencies and proclivities and opportunities.
Just because we don't live in a society with the prominent
horror of female infanticide doesn't mean that sons are not
more likely than daughters to inherit the status and
privileges of the fathers (and to be seen to merit these). 

(Does GW Bush have any sisters? How come I don't know? Why
not?)

Fonda speechifies in the genre of feminist politics, which
is one powerful, effective, and relevant way to make the
point. But one could work toward similar politically charged
conclusions contrasting other apparent binaries:
"capital"/labour, coloniser/colonised, wealthy/poor,
advanced/backward, civilised/savage, Captains of
Industry/the Elders, adults/children, bullies/bullied, ... 

Let me just develop the last point. If you wanted to create
a STRUCTURE of political decision-making that strongly
favoured the bully over the concensus-builder, you would
have a hard time creating something more effective than the
parliamentary system, especially as it is practised in
Canada. Consider: 

** the person who wins the leadership of the party (only
party members voting) will be the Prime Minister or Leader
of the Opposition (or none of these) as a result of a
general election in which each party sets out a field of
candidates, one per electoral district. 

** the Prime Minister as leader of the party is the boss of
the government caucus and in charge of all appointments (to
cabinet, secretaryships, etc.) from the pool of elected
members. 

** the PM as PM is Chief Executive, responsible for *all*
aspects of government, most importantly what legislation to
bring to the House and when to bring it. 

** In the House, "party discipline" is expected and members
must vote the party line (so as to pass the bills and
maintain the government). If the goverment LOSES a vote in
parliament, the government is defeated and the PM must
resign as PM and an election is called. In Canada this
applies to virtually EVERY vote unless explicitly identified
as "open". 

** in Cabinet, PM is Chair; solidarity and secrecy are
enforced. Whatever goes on in the meeting, all ministers
will present a common front, fully supporting the position
of "the government". The contents of debate in cabinet are
privileged. 

** Needless to say, anyone violating these rules and
traditions stands likely to lose whatever post or perk she
or he has, and so.

** It has been noticed, that this amounts to a dictatorship
of the PM and his/her party. Every 4 or 5 years, the PM
decides to stand aside and ask the monarch to call a general
election which will be held 6 weeks - YES that's 6 WEEKS -
after it is called. As a result of this election, the
absolute rule of the PM is reconstituted. 

This sketch is off the top of my head but is the gist of it.
The structure and tradition of this system concentrates
power magnificently in ONE PERSON. 

Now let me define "bully" as "a person whose chief aim in
life is to exert *power over others*; all other objects of
desire serve this highest end; the *telos* of the bully is
power." 

There are probably very few pure bullies; but the character
type certainly exists. Such people are importantly different
from many (most) of us. But it is THEY, and not most of us,
who are strongly *attracted to* positions of power. And so
it is THEY who will be found in inordinate numbers among the
especially ambitious in the upper reaches of politics (and
other institutions of significant public power - business,
the law, etc.). 

I think it is also true that decidedly more males are
bullies than females. Males don't have a monopoly, but
surely it is a "masculine" trait (which means that it will,
for oratorical purposes, sometimes be spoken of as a nasty
consequence of "testosterone poisoning". 

(I think Arthur sent around one day a piece about Prof
Robert Hare, a UBC psychologist, who argues that these
people are, literally, psychopaths. Perhaps so, but my point
doesn't turn on Hare being right; it just turns on the
presence of bullies among us, and the prevalence of
structures of power that SERVE THEIR INTERESTS*.)  

I have been claiming that among those top-down,
take-it-or-leave-it, like-it-or-lump-it structures of power
is the parliamentary system. Bullies will be especially
well-served in such a system; it attracts them and we will
find them dominant there, mostly among the boyz. (Speaking
of boys who will be boys, I could insert a sidebar here
about Question Period as practised in BC and Ottawa, but
I'll leave that, often embarassing spectacle, to more able
authors.) 


Ed Weick's observation is here pertinent. He says, 

>>> I can't think of any women I've encountered in positions of power in politics, 
>>> business or the bureaucracy who operate differently from the way men operate. <<< 

Of course, I think Ed would agree that the people we
encounter in these positions of power are 4 out of 5 times
men. There are many reasons for this, but I am sure that one
very important reason is that most women have neither the
desire, the inclination, or the stomach to behave like
bullies. Those that do - indeed, seem rather to relish it,
tend to do well...  Enter Margaret Thatcher. 

Ed might also want to revise his observation. Does he
include the last two Canadian NDP Leaders in his survey
(Audrey McLaughlin, Alexa McDonough)? You could say, "but
they didn't have any power" ... which is to concede the
point. 

How about the northern people you've worked with, Ed? From
where I sit I see few (if any) bullies among the native
people. I do see men and women who operate more like each
other and less like the typical successful parliamentarian. 

I can bring these thoughts to conclusion in a coherent way
by observing that the political structure & traditions of
*municipal councils* are far less hospitable to bullies and,
with a little effort, can even be made concensus-building
and people-friendly. 


When Jane Fonda says ---> 

"Because we can't just talk about women being at the table -
it's too late for that - we have to think in terms of the
shape of the table.  Is it hierarchical or circular
(metaphorically speaking)? We have to think about the
quality of the men who are with us at the table, the culture
that is hovering over the table that governs how things are
decided and in whose interests.  This is not just about
glass ceilings or politics as usual."  

I hear her saying "DOWN WITH BULLIES and the Patriarchal
Structures that support them!" and I say "Hear! Hear! Say it
Again & Again!"  

Thanks, Karen, for sending JF's piece around. 

best wishes & Happy Winter to all, 

Stephen Straker 

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