> That's where the laws of supply and demand step
in. An odious or even
> odorous job will be accorded a high enough wage to attract employees.
> Take a look at those crazy tv shows like "Fear Factor". I've seen people
> crush worms with their feet and drink the worm juice just to win a few
> dollars. I've never seen Worm-Crusher-Drinker in the CCDO (Canadian
> Classification and Dictionary of Occupations) but if society needs such
> people it knows how to find them!
>
> FWP
> odorous job will be accorded a high enough wage to attract employees.
> Take a look at those crazy tv shows like "Fear Factor". I've seen people
> crush worms with their feet and drink the worm juice just to win a few
> dollars. I've never seen Worm-Crusher-Drinker in the CCDO (Canadian
> Classification and Dictionary of Occupations) but if society needs such
> people it knows how to find them!
>
> FWP
Plumbers do all kinds of things that I would rather not
do and they are well paid.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: [Futurework] BI
> > From: Christoph Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites
> >
> > Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
>
> > > You may wish to ask the new Justice Minister, Irwin Cotler, what his
> > > position is on Canada adhering to the Universal Declaration of Human
> > > Rights Article 25 which says that necessities of life are a "right".
> > > Cotler is a former law professor with a human rights specialization.
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > The Swiss constitution (article 12) contains the right to a humane existence
> > and assistance to those who can't look after themselves.
>
> In times of high unemployment then, there must be a BI to make Article 12
> mwaningful. Has anyone ever put it to the test in the courts?
>
> However, there's
> > no general BI, and no need for it. Maybe this has to do with article 6
> > (which demands personal responsibility) and article 19 (which guarantees
> > sufficient education for free, even to women who marry mean patriarchs).
> >
> > Ed Weick wrote:
>
> > > If I read you right Ray, you are still associating BI with work, whether
> > > for profit or not for profit. I can't go there with you. It sounds a
> > > little too much like workfare, essentially grabbing people by the scruff
> > > of the neck and making them do the shit work nobody else wants to do
> >
> > Who will "do the shit work nobody else wants to do" in a BI system ?
> > Nobody, I guess. But it has to be done. (Not necessarily by workfare
> > crews!) Worse, a lot of "shit work" has to be done that isn't "profitable"
> > and thus is not done -- unless paid by the state, but the state can't
> > afford that if it has to pay a BI to everyone.
>
> That's where the laws of supply and demand step in. An odious or even
> odorous job will be accorded a high enough wage to attract employees.
> Take a look at those crazy tv shows like "Fear Factor". I've seen people
> crush worms with their feet and drink the worm juice just to win a few
> dollars. I've never seen Worm-Crusher-Drinker in the CCDO (Canadian
> Classification and Dictionary of Occupations) but if society needs such
> people it knows how to find them!
>
> FWP
>
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