On 8/8/07, Jesús Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:31:08 +0200
> Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 09:45:12PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > > On 08/08/07, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > "Dominik Vogt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > > The standard convention is to spell acronyms in capitals.
> > > > >
> > > > > I never thought of fvwm as an acronym.
> > > >
> > > > If we say it's not an acronym then it's not.
> > >
> > > Sure.  Whilst we're there we could also that that whilst we don't need
> > > full stops, we won't use them either.  That might seem facetious, but
> > > it's not meant to be.  :P
> > >
> > > > In English, normally proper names are capitalized,
> > > > like Fvwm, put product names are free to do whatever they
> > > > like, for example, "iMac".
> > >
> > > Yes, but on this occasion, FVWM *stands* for something -- its name
> > > *is* the product name which means correct capitalisation of the
> > > acronym.
> >
> > Yes, and laser also stands for something and has become so
> > familiar that almost nobody writes it LASER (or knows what the
> > letters stand for).  So what?
> >
>
> I am not going into the discussion, it is not a thing I am willing
> to fight for, I just wanted to make a small comment.
>
> The fact that 'laser' is written in lower case is not because it is
> a lower case acronym, but because of the evolution of the language.
>
> New words are created each day. By the day the first LASER device
> was created, there were no word to name that thingy, and that is
> why it was named with an acronym: 'LASER'. But language evolved, and
> a new word was created: 'laser'. So, that argument above is pretty
> much pointless.
>
> Nowadays, 'laser' (lower case) is a word, and no longer an acronym,
> you can look at the dictionary. Of course, the acronym 'LASER' does
> exists still. But 'laser', is a word, with a meaning, regardless of
> its etymology or origin. It is a noun, not an acronym. Any dictionary
> will tell you the same.
>
> That is not the case for 'fvwm', so, the two cases are not comparable.
>
> Just my .02

I'm used to have "real" code written in lowercase, while macros are
written in uppercase. I tend to dislike the way macros look, and
certainly don't want fvwm's name to look like a macro.. Maybe not
perfect english (English?), but we live by our own rules.

Cheers,
  Renato

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