On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 21:07, Dan Espen wrote: > Thats pretty strange, any chance EMC Data Manager and rm6 use > the same GUI toolkit? If you do an ldd on the EMC binary do you > see anything that looks like libndcore, libndvgm?
Yep, here's the output: : edm 23#; ldd `which edm` libcdl.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libcdl.so.1 libdbapi.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libdbapi.so.1 libebfs.so.2 => /usr/epoch/lib/libebfs.so.2 libtrail.so.2 => /usr/epoch/lib/libtrail.so.2 librvm.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/librvm.so.1 libmedup.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libmedup.so.1 librdb.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/librdb.so.1 libepochrpc.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libepochrpc.so.1 libcscomm.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libcscomm.so.1 libcd_api.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libcd_api.so.1 liblogging.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/liblogging.so.1 libutil.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libutil.so.1 libeerrno.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libeerrno.so.1 libndscvrb.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndscvrb.so libndcoresvr.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndcoresvr.so libndgw.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndgw.so libndtkit.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndtkit.so ** libndvgm.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndvgm.so libndscrpt.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndscrpt.so libndres.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndres.so libndcore.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndcore.so libndoapom.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndoapom.so libndoaba.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndoaba.so ** libndcorex.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndcorex.so libndsec.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libndsec.so libX11.so.4 => /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4 libXext.so.0 => /usr/openwin/lib/libXext.so.0 libposix4.so.1 => /usr/lib/libposix4.so.1 libsocket.so.1 => /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1 libnsl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 libm.so.1 => /usr/lib/libm.so.1 libCrun.so.1 => /usr/lib/libCrun.so.1 libw.so.1 => /usr/lib/libw.so.1 libthread.so.1 => /usr/lib/libthread.so.1 libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 libsfp.so => /usr/epoch/lib/libsfp.so libdbapirpc.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libdbapirpc.so.1 libmvr.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libmvr.so.1 lib_drv.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/lib_drv.so.1 lib_devutil.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/lib_devutil.so.1 libddl_drive.so.1 => /usr/epoch/lib/libddl_drive.so.1 librwtool.so.2 => /usr/epoch/lib/librwtool.so.2 libintl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libintl.so.1 libaio.so.1 => /usr/lib/libaio.so.1 libmp.so.2 => /usr/lib/libmp.so.2 /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise/lib/libc_psr.so.1 > OK, the application is calling XGetWindowAttributes and > getting a bad window return code. Ie. the window doesn't > exist. The window id is 0x2800001. You can see window > id's with the xwininfo command. The easiest way is to type: > > xwininfo -root -tree > > The window id will be different each time you run, so run > this command just before you create the problem. Then > we should know which window its trying to read the > attributes on that it can't find. > I wasn't sure whether you wanted me to run this on the Linux box or on the EDM, so I've attached the output from both. The file names are pretty descriptive as to what each file contains. (Although, if the DISPLAY variables are the same, not sure that this really matters anyway.) This is certainly interesting. I'm sure you'll pick this up by looking at the xwininfo output I've attached. This seems to be pretty consistent. I'm running VMWare when the problem exists, when I exit VMWare, the problem goes away. I don't even have to be running the virtual machine, either. I just have to have the initial window up and running. The problem with rm6 is when I move over those buttons, it trys to display pop-up text. When VMWare is running, it causes the window to close. Without VMWare, the window stays up. Sometimes it loses focus, but once I move the pointer out and back in again, things are fine from there on out. > Well, I think you've given us some useful hints. Hopefully this helps some more. > Strange as it seems, thats what we observed. I just started :1 and verified things act the same as :0. -- Ryan Daly Unix Administrator/Network Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation (v) 814.269.6889 100 CTC Drive (f) 814.269.2685 Johnstown, PA US 15904-1935 91 3E E1 09 16 D1 5A 67 1A CA 16 C7 E0 C1 74 72 ftp.ctcgsc.org:/pub/PGP-keys/daly.asc
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