On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Dominik Vogt wrote:

> > Like 
> > http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~uwp/fvwm_web_site/index.php?layout=window
> > ?
> 
> Almost.  Can you remove the bottom and right border of the outer
> frame too?

With difficulties. I use a simple shell script to generate
the decoration pictures from a window screenshot or
another picture. To see how it works look at:

http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~uwp/fvwm_web_site/index.php?layout=window&border=1
 

The script cuts 9 pieces out of a pictures which can be
remerged in a html-table to make the original picture scalable. 

+---------------+     +--+--+--+
|               | =>  +--+--+--+
|               |     +--+--+--+
+---------------+     +--+--+--+

So I have to remove the bottom and right border by hand.

> > I thought making the web like a screenshot. For example:
> > http://fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net/screenshots/full/spruce.gif
> > (My idea was to show as much fvwm features as possible and
> > use them in the web design way:)
> 
> Yes, I got that :-)  BUt we should keep in mind that the page must
> still be easy to navigate.  We must not drown the surfer in
> graphical gimmicks that make it hard to find the information she
> is looking for.

In my opinion a web site must be designed to provide access
to the information one needs as easy as possible. So the
first requirement is easy and obvious navigation the second
would be a fancy layout to bind the surfer ;-) 

I will do some examples. Due the php-concept it is quite
easy to add and remove parts of a web page. Once you have
set them up you can insert them in a page and remove them
from it within seconds ;-)

> > http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~uwp/fvwm_web_site/index.php?layout=16buttons
> 
> Yes, that's too confusing.  But that is a specific problems of the
> "desktop icons menu" style.  In the end we should probably have
> some structure with the links in one, maybe two vertical columns.
> Everything else is too difficult to read (so forget my idea of
> putting the menu items in the title bar).
> 
> How about a WindowList like layout:
> 
>   +-------------------+
>   |[i] Home           |
>   |[i] Download       |
>   |[i] Developer Info |
>   |[i] Man Pages      |
>   |[i] Screen shots   |
>            ...
>   |                   |
>   +-------------------+
> 
> The [i]s are some mini icons, but it's probably easier to read
> without them.

Yes. Good idea. I could do an example hopefully by the end
of this week.

> And one suggestion about the site layout:  Screen shots and
> configs should be in the same place so you can say "I want the
> config for this shot".

Yes, that's what I have in mind too. I was also thinking
about modular configs which can be included by Read in
.fvwm2rc. One could provide config-parts for window
decorations, menu styles, module configs and so on. I have
set this up at my home computer but not that consequently.
It makes changing parts of the fvwm-config quite easy and
portable.

> No need to check all browsers.  I just wanted to mention that the
> pages must allow it (not like Shockwave flash menus, etc.).

I have to check the pages which different browsers anyway.
Every browser displays pages slightly differently.  Most of
them do not support the whole w3c standard :-(


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