On 08 Jul 2003 15:26:28 -0400, parv wrote:
> 
> in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> wrote Mikhael Goikhman thusly...
> >
> > FullScreen should remove decorations, at least this is what a user
> > expects.
> 
> This user does not.
> 
> I would like to have the fvwm decorations retained on
> windows/programs that (try) to go full-screen by their own mechanism
> (say mozilla) ... unless that is against some spec.  If fvwm's idea
> of full-screen is different than the client, i would like to have
> some control on the fvwm aspect.
> 
> (FWIW, i just tried acrobat 5.06; decorations are retained but title
> bar is moved outside of current view.)

We speak about functions posted by Olivier, if you need decorations that
are out of the screen and unaccessible, define these functions
differently. Or maybe just don't request windows to go full-screen.

Removing decorations should be at least an option if not the default.
There are several problems in a window occupying 9 pages. For example: a
window looks a bit strange in a pager; 2 full-screen windows on different
pages overlap each other, without decorations they would not conflict;
when you shade such window it ends up mostly in the different page;
conditions Visible and CurrentPage work on 9 pages for such window
although a user intended a window to maximized on one page only; there is
also a Xinerama related issue:

  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/wm-spec-list/2003-March/msg00062.html

I may continue this list, for example if full-screen window has
decorations, it is not clear whether to start to count WarpToWindow from
decorations or from a window, either way may be problematic, currently it
counts from a client window with maximized mozilla, if full-screen window
has no decorations there is no such problem.

Again, removing decorations should not be forced, but at least allowed.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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