At Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:00:57 +0100 (CET) Lucio Chiappetti <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Robert Heller wrote: > > >>> The topmost menu bar (File Edit ...) has white text onto black > >>> background, The remaining menu bars and widget are normal > > >> For firefox there is a partial workaround. ["persona" "simple fox"] > > > To make FireFox (and other GNome-flavored applications) 'play nice' > > with FVWM, I fire up a minimal bit of GNome: > > /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon. By firing this up with a properly > > setup ~/.gconf<mumble> directory/files, I can get FireFox to be set up > > with the proper Gnome 'theme' (I created a minimual theme that suited). > > So you are confirming there are applications which are ill-behaved with > fvwm ? I hope this info makes sense with Thomas Adam. Not so much 'ill-behaved', just that things like various sorts of appearence settings are just not possible without gnome-settings-daemon running. Without gnome-settings-daemon I get some 'funky' defaults that cannot be changed (and look weird compared to the rest of the applications I run). It is that these 'new-fangled' applications no longer even look at the X11 resource DB (dislike!) and are using some other mechanism, one that *requires* certain parts of the desktop manager running. > > I am REALLY reluctant to have to learn gnome just to bypass its features > (if I understand correctly). Actually I'm not even sure it is installed > (our institute-wide base pre-installation prepared by our sys man replied > "KDE" when offered the choice "KDE vs gnome") ... and under KDE those > applications are well-behaved. > > Would you mind to share this "minimal theme" ? I'm not sure how to do that. I had to fumble with gnome's theme manager program and don't know where the 'theme' per se lives. > > Or will Thomas Adam have a simpler workaround at .fvwmrc level if this > diagnosis makes sense to him ? If FVWM could 'fake' what it is that gnome-settings-daemon does, which I think it is creating a UNIX socket in /tmp/orbit-$USER/ and then making some config mumbo jumbo available, that would be great. I don't know if it is documented or if there is a GTK-ish library that deals with this. It might not be a GNome-specific thing, just some sort of 'desktop manager' business using ORBit2. And probably KDE has its own version of gnome-settings-daemon that does what is needful for FireFox, etc. behave with proper theme-ish settings. Maybe what is needed is some FVWM *module* that hooks into ORBit2 and also provides some proper theme-ish appearence settings for those applications that need this sort of thing (and which won't fallback and use the X11 Resource DB). > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / [email protected] Deepwoods Software -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments
