I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'test suite', or- more
precisely- that doesn't sound like what I think of when I hear the
phrase 'test suite'. :) Do you have a URL that I could take a look at
with the tests you mention?

,Wil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Federico Cargnelutti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:24 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [fw-general] ZF Proposal Process and Packaging. . .
> 
> I think it's a great idea. It will get more developers involved and
> offer
> more solutions to the users.
> 
> Here is another idea. I did a little experiment last year and created
a
> test
> suite in order to get other developers interested in the ZF. I added
> around
> 8 test cases, each test had its own page, and each page had a div with
> 2
> tabs, "example" and "source code". It was a huge success.
> 
> I think this is something very important that's actually missing in
the
> website. It would be nice to see Reference Guide - APIs - Videos and
> Test
> Suite. IMO code is the best documentation, it helps users understand
> what a
> component does and how it works straight away, and of course, they get
> to
> see real examples.
> 
> Fed
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wil Sinclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Logan Buesching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [fw-general] ZF Proposal Process and Packaging. . .
> 
> 
> And that's exactly the intention- to support development of components
> that are 'Zend Framework' components but that we can't support. What
> makes a component a 'Zend Framework' component? Well, sitting
alongside
> ZF code in the library, using ZF coding standings, and having
> dependencies on other framework components is certainly a good start.
> But I would argue that more important than any one of those factors is
> the assurance of quality that comes from unit test coverage and design
> review from the Zend Framework community. This assurance is something
> we
> definitely want to bring to extras as well, so the intention is not to
> allow a components of lower quality, rather to allow components that
we
> can distribute while not supporting them.
> 
> ,Wil
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Logan Buesching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:34 AM
> > To: till
> > Cc: Wil Sinclair; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [fw-general] ZF Proposal Process and Packaging. . .
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Although I'm not sure how much my 2 cents weigh, I would like to say
> > that I would really enjoy this feature.
> >
> > till wrote:
> > > In general people look at the Zend Framework because they want
> > > well-tested code. Code which is free to use (in regard to license)
> > > etc.. I think support is another issue which people kind of expect
> > > from you when they download of the zend.com domain. Now if only
> > > everything but extras is qualified to meet the standards you set
> upon
> > > yourself, the rest should be dropped all together. It's messy
> > > otherwise.
> > >
> > I do agree that when people see Zend, and especially the Zend
> > Framework,
> > they believe that it is quality code.  This is why they are
> suggesting
> > that code in 'extras' meet their own requirements (or at least most
> of
> > them), but Zend themselves cannot support due to it's size.  I look
> at
> > this the same way that many Linux distributions have 'official'
> > packages
> > that they support, then they have extras that are in the repository,
> > but
> > they don't support (as in Ubuntu and Universal).  I think that it is
> a
> > wonderful idea, because it allows us developers to get a lot more
> > features that will most likely be pretty well tested, but maybe not
> > pristine.
> >
> > I would think that extending the Zend Framework would be a hassle if
> > there is no way for the community to distribute their own
> contributions
> > through the help of Zend.

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