I *think* what he's talking about is live examples with viewable source code


wllm wrote:
> 
> I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'test suite', or- more
> precisely- that doesn't sound like what I think of when I hear the
> phrase 'test suite'. :) Do you have a URL that I could take a look at
> with the tests you mention?
> 
> ,Wil
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Federico Cargnelutti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:24 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [fw-general] ZF Proposal Process and Packaging. . .
>> 
>> I think it's a great idea. It will get more developers involved and
>> offer
>> more solutions to the users.
>> 
>> Here is another idea. I did a little experiment last year and created
> a
>> test
>> suite in order to get other developers interested in the ZF. I added
>> around
>> 8 test cases, each test had its own page, and each page had a div with
>> 2
>> tabs, "example" and "source code". It was a huge success.
>> 
>> I think this is something very important that's actually missing in
> the
>> website. It would be nice to see Reference Guide - APIs - Videos and
>> Test
>> Suite. IMO code is the best documentation, it helps users understand
>> what a
>> component does and how it works straight away, and of course, they get
>> to
>> see real examples.
>> 
>> Fed
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wil Sinclair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Logan Buesching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "till" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:28 PM
>> Subject: RE: [fw-general] ZF Proposal Process and Packaging. . .
>> 
>> 
>> And that's exactly the intention- to support development of components
>> that are 'Zend Framework' components but that we can't support. What
>> makes a component a 'Zend Framework' component? Well, sitting
> alongside
>> ZF code in the library, using ZF coding standings, and having
>> dependencies on other framework components is certainly a good start.
>> But I would argue that more important than any one of those factors is
>> the assurance of quality that comes from unit test coverage and design
>> review from the Zend Framework community. This assurance is something
>> we
>> definitely want to bring to extras as well, so the intention is not to
>> allow a components of lower quality, rather to allow components that
> we
>> can distribute while not supporting them.
>> 
>> ,Wil
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Logan Buesching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:34 AM
>> > To: till
>> > Cc: Wil Sinclair; [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [fw-general] ZF Proposal Process and Packaging. . .
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Although I'm not sure how much my 2 cents weigh, I would like to say
>> > that I would really enjoy this feature.
>> >
>> > till wrote:
>> > > In general people look at the Zend Framework because they want
>> > > well-tested code. Code which is free to use (in regard to license)
>> > > etc.. I think support is another issue which people kind of expect
>> > > from you when they download of the zend.com domain. Now if only
>> > > everything but extras is qualified to meet the standards you set
>> upon
>> > > yourself, the rest should be dropped all together. It's messy
>> > > otherwise.
>> > >
>> > I do agree that when people see Zend, and especially the Zend
>> > Framework,
>> > they believe that it is quality code.  This is why they are
>> suggesting
>> > that code in 'extras' meet their own requirements (or at least most
>> of
>> > them), but Zend themselves cannot support due to it's size.  I look
>> at
>> > this the same way that many Linux distributions have 'official'
>> > packages
>> > that they support, then they have extras that are in the repository,
>> > but
>> > they don't support (as in Ubuntu and Universal).  I think that it is
>> a
>> > wonderful idea, because it allows us developers to get a lot more
>> > features that will most likely be pretty well tested, but maybe not
>> > pristine.
>> >
>> > I would think that extending the Zend Framework would be a hassle if
>> > there is no way for the community to distribute their own
>> contributions
>> > through the help of Zend.
> 
> 
> 

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