A better example might be Python Eggs. You can unpack them to a directory of
your choosing using a simple CLI-bootstrap file.

Symfony does use Pear, but Symfony is not very shared-hosting friendly --
and Zend *is* shared-hosting friendly, which is something that I would very
much like to see the community maintain.

-K

On Jan 22, 2008 6:12 PM, Kevin McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  -1 from me on this idea.
>
> Pear updating something as fragile as the framework could cause all kinds
> of serious problems for sites using it as a shared library.
>
> It would be better to have a cli tool for framework installation.. a web
> installer like go-pear would probably be a better format for this.
>
> I'd also still continue to advocate when using a shared library approach
> that people use a versioned installation path like
> /usr/share/php/ZendFramework/ZendFramework-1.5 such that bootstrap files
> can pick their target versions explicitly.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> Wil Sinclair wrote:
>
>  Actually, I'm a bit ignorant since I'm a relative PHP newbie, but let me
> turn that question around- why would a PEAR channel be a good way to
> distribute ZF? That is, considering the current ZF installation is basically
> download, decompress, and update include path, what does PEAR bring to the
> table that I'm missing?
>
>
>
> ,Wil
>
>
>
> *From:* Bryce Lohr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:13 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [fw-general] ZF Packaging
>
>
>
> I second the request for PEAR channel. Is there any reason why that would
> not be a good way to distribute the framework?
>
> Regards,
> Bryce Lohr
>
>
> Pádraic Brady wrote:
>
> *Hi Will,
>
> It sounds good - an optional lean package would frighten off far less
> prospective users who have heard tales about HDD's dying from the strain of
> downloading the ZF ;).
> I would still like to see a PEAR channel emerge at some point though -
> that may be a fanciful concept but I gather from the last paragraph
> something along those lines is under consideration?
> Hope someone comes up with colourful names for these variants!
>
> Best regards,
> Paddy*
>
>
>
> *Pádraic Brady
>
> **http://blog.astrumfutura.com
> http://www.patternsforphp.com
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Wil Sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:36:39 PM
> Subject: [fw-general] ZF Packaging
>
> As part of the 1.5 release process, we've been reviewing the size of our
> distribution package and what contributes the most weight. We've
> determined that there are a few 'heavyweights' that we currently have in
> the zips/tarballs that many- if not most- users will never need. These
> include the unit tests, the demos, and the locale files (currently
> consuming ~8MB uncompressed on my hdd :O). With these components, the
> 1.0.3 release is ~5.3MB compressed on my hdd. We would like to
> distribute, starting with the 1.5 RC1, a 'lean and mean' ZF package
> alongside the 'everything' package. The 'lean and mean' package would
> not contain the tests, demos, locale files, or extras. 'Everything'
> would include, well, everything- even docs in html format. To facilitate
> access to the omissions from the 'lean and mean' release, we would
> provide a download action for the CLI tool so they can be retrieved and
> installed in the correct place with a single command.
> Thomas can give more details about how the locale-aware components would
> behave in this proposal.
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
> ,Wil
>
>
>
>

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