I see two problems with requiring my users to download ZF separately:

1. It's not user friendly. Users should be able to download a single
archive, extract it, and install the application.

2. I can't guarantee compatibility with every version of ZF.

Also, if I used the same logic with all included libraries for this
application, users would need to download a total of 4 external
libraries, and I would need to account for the varying versions of all
4 libraries.

By including the external libraries in my application's distribution,
users only need to maintain a single application, not an application
and 4 libraries.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Kevin McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I can't see any reason the BSD license would prevent this, however, the
> ideal solution would be to maintain an external reference to the official
> framework repo, such that any fixes or changes could be contributed back
> under the CLA and therefore available to everyone.
>
>  I'm not sure applications built upon the Zend Framework should distribute
> the framework itself, as from time-to-time, there will likely be security
> updates backported etc. Getting the latest version of a minor version say
> 1.0.3a should probably be the preferred approach.
>
>  Some leadership from Zend on the whole packaging, distribution, patching
> and security issues would be nice to have though.
>
>  K
>
>
>
>  Jordan Moore wrote:
>  Not sure why I said MIT, since I had the license right in front of me
> and it clearly says "New BSD License"... but thanks for the reply.
>
> If anyone has an opposing opinion, let me know...
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  On 2/28/08, Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I'm developing a distributable application that will be
>  > using/including the Zend Framework. I was planning on releasing the
>  > application with a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
>  > License. Does anyone know if this is compatible with the MIT license
>  > that ZF is using?
>
>  ZF isn't MIT. It's BSD with no advert. Although AFAIK they are
>  logically identical.
>
>  Since BSD is pretty much a "do whatever you want" license then it is
>  basically compatible with everything. Go for it.
>
>  In fact I think you could even take ZF and s/Zend/Jordan/g and call it
>  "Jordan's Framework". For a while the Linux guys were taking FreeBSD
>  drivers and just ripping out the BSD license header and putting in the
>  GPL header. But I think they stopped doing that because the BSD people
>  became very annoyed. And rightly so since it was effectively a
>  one-way-street because they could not bring any GPL'd patches back
>  into FreeBSD.
>
>  Mike
>
>  --
>  Michael B Allen
>  PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO
>  http://www.ioplex.com/
>
>
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