Hi,
I am prototyping a site search using Zend_Search, and was
wondering if
anyone had a good way of paginating the results?
Keith Pope
Web Developer
-----Original Message-----
From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 February 2008 05:55
To: Jordan Moore; Kevin McArthur
Cc: Michael B Allen; fw-general General; Wil Sinclair
Subject: RE: [fw-general] License Compatibility
Hi,
You can't change the license of ZF itself but you can license your
code under any license which is compatible with the New BSD license
and I believe you can also license the collective work itself
under a
different license. In general the New BSD license is very lax and I
don't know of a license it's not compatible with.
It is typical for software vendors to bundle and update all the
pieces
their application need so that their customers have an out-of- the-
box
experience (e.g. Zend Core, our Certified PHP distribution bundles a
large amount of 3rd party libraries, PHP extensions, Zend Framework
and of course PHP itself).
As to releasing updates we will likely follow a similar policy as
PHP
has. This means releasing a new mini release with critical security
issues for the latest version of each major version which has not
been
end of lifed. So currently we release updates for PHP 4.4.x and PHP
5.2.x. For other versions (5.0, 5.1, 4.3, 4.2) companies who don't
want to upgrade need to deal with their own patching. In many cases,
they can leverage the patches which were done for the last releases
with little modification but no one can guarantee that.
Hope that helps. As Bill pointed out, don't trust legal advice you
get
from anyone here including myself.
Andi
-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:15 AM
To: Kevin McArthur
Cc: Michael B Allen; fw-general General; Wil Sinclair
Subject: Re: [fw-general] License Compatibility
I see two problems with requiring my users to download ZF
separately:
1. It's not user friendly. Users should be able to download a
single
archive, extract it, and install the application.
2. I can't guarantee compatibility with every version of ZF.
Also, if I used the same logic with all included libraries for this
application, users would need to download a total of 4 external
libraries, and I would need to account for the varying versions of
all
4 libraries.
By including the external libraries in my application's
distribution,
users only need to maintain a single application, not an
application
and 4 libraries.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Kevin McArthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
I can't see any reason the BSD license would prevent this,
however,
the
ideal solution would be to maintain an external reference to the
official
framework repo, such that any fixes or changes could be
contributed
back
under the CLA and therefore available to everyone.
I'm not sure applications built upon the Zend Framework should
distribute
the framework itself, as from time-to-time, there will likely be
security
updates backported etc. Getting the latest version of a minor
version
say
1.0.3a should probably be the preferred approach.
Some leadership from Zend on the whole packaging, distribution,
patching
and security issues would be nice to have though.
K
Jordan Moore wrote:
Not sure why I said MIT, since I had the license right in front of
me
and it clearly says "New BSD License"... but thanks for the reply.
If anyone has an opposing opinion, let me know...
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Michael B Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
On 2/28/08, Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm developing a distributable application that will be >
using/including the Zend Framework. I was planning on releasing
the
application with a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
License. Does anyone know if this is compatible with the MIT
license
that ZF is using?
ZF isn't MIT. It's BSD with no advert. Although AFAIK they are
logically identical.
Since BSD is pretty much a "do whatever you want" license then
it is
basically compatible with everything. Go for it.
In fact I think you could even take ZF and s/Zend/Jordan/g and
call
it
"Jordan's Framework". For a while the Linux guys were taking
FreeBSD
drivers and just ripping out the BSD license header and putting in
the
GPL header. But I think they stopped doing that because the BSD
people
became very annoyed. And rightly so since it was effectively a
one-way-street because they could not bring any GPL'd patches back
into FreeBSD.
Mike
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