Hi Eric and all the others who have problems with "salts",

there is no problem to store your "salts" with your hashed passwords in your db.
You could read that here:

http://phpsec.org/articles/2005/password-hashing.html

There they explain why and how you should use a "salt".

Greetings
Sascha

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Von: Michael B Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. April 2008 19:20
An: Eric Marden
Cc: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [fw-general] adding "salt" to logging in and password security

On 4/17/08, Eric Marden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> P.S. - I'm not considering storing the salt in the DB as being
>  >> properly  secured. That's kind of like keeping the key to your house
>  >> under the  door mat. You can get in, if you know where to look.
>
>  > The UNIX passwd database and LDAP userPassword attribute store the
>  salt in plain sight with the password hash.
>
>
> There are ACLs protecting those assets.

There are no ACLs on the UNIX password datbase and even if there were
they wouldn't do any good if the hacker steals the database file(s)
(e.g. slapd dbm files).

> Still failing to see your point.

Clearly.

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