Yeah, well I guess I'm trying to break away from procedural while not
foraying 100% into MVC. I'm trying to keep the code dry (a new term I just
learned :-p) regardless.

My next question is, how am I to understand the usage of head helpers and
all the other goodies for adding <link> values into my head? I'd really like
to learn these!

What I'm thinking is that...perhaps I can set default head values but in my
page content views I want to pass detail from the view to modify the head.
For example, I like to split off my CSS files per script (usually). For
example I'll have a global.css for standard templates, then for page
specific stuff I'll do something like register.css etc. What I'd like to do
is include in register.phtml a directive of some sort to change the layout
head to add <link> in automatically.

If I can't do it via the register.phtml view script then most likely I'll
have to do it in my own controller script.

My question is how do I do this for either of them? This is what I mean
about using them as standalone tools, there really isn't any direction
unless I dig deep into the code and spend more time learning how to do them.

The question I have also is, what are the disadvantages of using Zend_View
and Zend_Layout as opposed to regular procedural coding? heh.

Sorry for the, somewhat, silly questions. You guys know these answers most
likely but really I have no clue and don't know how to acquire the answers!

David

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> -- David Di Biase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> (on Friday, 02 May 2008, 05:40 PM -0400):
> > Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >     -- David Di Biase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >     (on Friday, 02 May 2008, 04:02 PM -0400):
> >     > I'm pretty much a complete noob when it comes to ZF. I've been a
> >     procedural PHP
> >     > developer for about 1-2 years. I'm dabbling in ZF though right now
> I
> >     think it
> >     > best to refrain using the full MVC model in my work. Mostly b/c I
> don't
> >     feel
> >     > comfortable with it at the moment.
> >     >
> >     > So I've gone ahead and attempted to use Zend_Layout without MVC
> and it
> >     appears
> >     > that there isn't much useful documentation on it. Which makes it
> painful
> >     for me
> >     > to learn :-/
> >     >
> >     > I most likely have made a mistake/overlooked something but this is
> what
> >     I've
> >     > done.
> >     >
> >     > I've created my configuration include class as such:
> >     >
> >     >         require_once 'Zend/Layout.php';
> >     >         $layout = new Zend_Layout();
> >     >
> $layout->setLayoutPath("{$_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']}/layout/")
> >     >                   ->setLayout("main");
> >     >
> >     > I've placed main.phtml in /layout/ and in my index.php scrip I've
> >     attempted
> >     > echo $layout->render(); but I keep getting this error:
> >     >
> >     > Fatal error: Class 'Zend_Controller_Action_HelperBroker' not found
> in /
> >     Users/
> >     > ddibiase/Documents/workspace/testzend/lib/Zend/Layout.php on line
> 505
> >
> >     What's going on is that Zend_Layout is looking for a view object
> with
> >     which to do its rendering; by default, if none is registered with
> >     Zend_Layout, it looks in the ViewRenderer action helper for one...
> which
> >     is where this error is occurring. I'll enter an issue in the tracker
> to
> >     explicitly load the HelperBroker when this happens.
> >
> >     For you, what you need to do is create a view object and attach it
> to
> >     your layout object:
> >
> >        require_once 'Zend/View.php';
> >        $view = new 'Zend/View.php';
> >        $layout->setView($view);
> >
> >     and you should be good.
> >
> >
> > Haha, forgive me but I'm still uber confused. I thought the two lines I
> have
> > there:
> >
> >         $layout->setLayoutPath("{$_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']}/layout/")
> >                ->setLayout("main");
> >
> > Were meant to first specify a directory of my layout files then
> setLayout would
> > register which view file to use. So if I'm understanding you, instead I
> have to
> > initialise the view and attach it directly?
>
> No, no... You have to attach a view *in addition* to those.
>
> > Oh man. lol. My head is spinning.
> >
> > What's the advantage of using layout then? I could just use Zend_View,
> create
> > three objects for my header, footer and content.
> >
> > I could probably even just contain the headers in partials for that
> matter?
>
> When not using the MVC, Zend_Layout doesn't make much sense *except*
> that it allows you to register content in placeholders within your other
> view scripts *and* specifies a separate directory for the layout view
> scripts that supercedes any other view scripts. Other than that, doing
> two step views is entirely possible by simply re-using your view object.
>
> Two Step View makes most sense in an application where your content is
> being generated in separate processes from your layout -- typically
> because your view object goes out of scope. In a procedural script, it
> makes less sense.
>
> --
> Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> Software Architect       | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Zend - The PHP Company   | http://www.zend.com/
>



-- 
David Di Biase

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