As a PHP 'abuser', I love PHP just the way it is and projects such as ZF enhance my user experience.
I have been using PHP for approx. 8 years. It all started with Mambo and I wish I had ZF back then when that all started. As an 'abuser' where I would like to see PHP improve is: 1) Clear up my personal confusion between PEAR and PECL :-) 2) Provide simple (and free) mod_rewrite compatiblity between IIS and Apache using .htaccess files! (and other web-serving solutions) 3) Allow the forking of background processes easily X-Platform PHP is the preferred language for X-WebServer development. Java based solutions just don't compare in the commercial world (especially when your customer demands it runs under IIS!). At least with PHP it is one world and not we prefer Tomcat, JBOSS, Websphere etc. I don't pretend to understand what is coming with PHP6 etc but what I do know is that with PHP I can develop complex web applications that work on ALL platforms and with most web servers. - Robert -----Original Message----- From: Jurriën Stutterheim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2008 18:16 To: Zend Framework - General Subject: Re: [fw-general] My thoughts on PHP On Jun 16, 2008, at 18:51 , Michał Minicki wrote: > Jurriën Stutterheim wrote: > > > Zeev gave a very nice example of this at the Dutch PHP Conference >> last saturday by comparing a Java Hello World to a PHP Hello World. > > Just as a side note, what's the big difference here? > > PHP: > <?= "Hello World!" ?> > <?php echo "Hello World!" ?> > > JSP: > <%= "Hello World!" %> > <% out.println("Hello World!") %> > It was a J2EE example with an entire class dedicated to the Hello World. It probably wasn't a fair comparison, but it got the point of PHP being an easy language across. >> PHP has it's own identity which it should never lose. However, this >> doesn't mean it should stick to the old trusted ways and ignore >> modern developments in the programming world. To keep this identity >> PHP needs to innovate and learn from recent innovations and >> programming insights. It needs to keep evolving so it can keep its >> lead on the web and please both beginning and experienced >> programmers alike. > > And like Python 3, it should drop backwards compatibility in favor of > innovation and cleanup in my own humble opinion :) vote++ >> - Jurriën > > -- > Michał Minicki aka Martel Valgoerad | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > http://aie.pl/martel.as c > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > =-=-=-=-=-= > "Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do > anything." -- Floyd Dell > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. ________________________________________________________________________
