-- keith Pope <mute.p...@googlemail.com> wrote
(on Friday, 30 October 2009, 04:43 PM +0000):
> 2009/10/30 Matthew Weier O'Phinney <matt...@zend.com>:
> > -- keith Pope <mute.p...@googlemail.com> wrote
> > (on Friday, 30 October 2009, 04:02 PM +0000):
> > > 2009/10/30 Ralph Schindler <ralph.schind...@zend.com> :
> > > Also will we be deprecating Zend_Db as if we have tight Doctrine
> > > integration is there any reason to keep Zend_Db?
> >
> > There are plenty of reasons to keep Zend_Db. Not everyone will be using
> > Doctrine, and for many one-off types of applications (single tables, or
> > multiple tables with no relations, etc.), having Zend_Db around will
> > continue to be essential. Additionally, one aspect I'd like to explore
> > with the Doctrine folks is potentially allowing Zend_Db adapters as
> > Doctrine RDBMS adapters; this would provide some very interesting
> > integration points.
> 
> Sounds interesting I look forward to seeing this initiative develop
> further, I would be happy to help in any way I can :)
> 
> Once we have the integration especially with doctrine 2 would there be
> any further plans to look at things like dependency injection,
> criteria objects and repositories or any other DDD tools? To me having
> a full suite of tools like this would be a great long term goal?

DI is something we're already planning for -- you'll note the "unified
constructor" pattern in all new components. Whether or not we'll have a
DI _container_ is another question; I'm not entirely convinced DI
containers have a good place in stateless applications, but I'll let
Ralph talk more to that point. :)

As for criteria objects, we've just approved another of Ben's
components, some extensions to Zend_Db_Expr. One aspect I particularly
like with it is that, combined with Zend_Db_Select, we are getting to a
point where we have an almost complete criteria object for select
operations. This could certainly be adapted for use with DDD fairly
easily. Regarding repositories, Zend_Application_Bootstrap actually
already acts as one in many ways -- though we may do more with this
and/or service locators for 2.0.

-- 
Matthew Weier O'Phinney
Project Lead            | matt...@zend.com
Zend Framework          | http://framework.zend.com/

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