-- D. J. <[email protected]> wrote
(on Friday, 13 August 2010, 11:16 PM +0800):
> BTW, I would like to let you know that the vote link is blocked in my
> country in case you don't think votes from my country don't make
> difference.
Can you try going to the canonical URL, then:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dEZOTGpMdjhzZDlmZGNMZVF0WnFTV2c6MQ
If you cannot reach that, let me know.
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:11 PM, D. J. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I only for myself:
> > I was the first one replying your email of "General inclinations
> > regarding prefixing non-public members?" with "No underscore".
> > But I did not participate your poll for I really don't understand your
> > intention of creating a poll after you had that email and so many
> > people already responded.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> -- Саша Стаменковић <[email protected]> wrote
> >> (on Friday, 13 August 2010, 10:14 AM +0200):
> >> > Can you tell us current score? :)
> >>
> >> There are currently 381 responses:
> >>
> >> * 57% vote "Yes" (to remove the underscores)
> >> * 38% vote "No" (to retain underscores)
> >> * 4% vote "No opinion"
> >>
> >> What has been interesting is that the percentages have remained
> >> consistent from the outset -- I expected more deviation. What is also
> >> interesting is that there is no real clear majority. Typically, I like
> >> to see a 2/3 vote to feel comfortable that the change is widely
> >> accepted, but that is not the case at this time.
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ZF Coding Standards are based on PEAR's CS. That standard was
> >> > developed
> >> > first by Horde, then expanded by PEAR, during the PHP 4 lifecycle.
> >> > PHP 4
> >> > had no concept of visibility in its object model; to provide some
> >> > pseudo-visibility, PEAR CS mandated that members considered
> >> > non-public
> >> > should be prefixed with an underscore.
> >> >
> >> > With the advent of PHP 5, PHP's object model received visibility
> >> > operators in the form of private, protected, and public. Applying
> >> > PEAR
> >> > CS to PHP 5 code meant that if you marked a member as private or
> >> > protected, you would also prefix with the underscore. Many have felt
> >> > this is redundant, and also that it makes refactoring more difficult
> >> > (changes in visibility often mean renaming the members). Proponents
> >> > of
> >> > the standard, however, argue that the leading underscore leads to
> >> > easier
> >> > maintenance of the code -- you know immediately what the visibility
> >> > of
> >> > the member you're dealing with is just by looking at it.
> >> >
> >> > PEAR2 has decided to eschew the underscore prefix:
> >> >
> >> > http://wiki.pear.php.net/index.php/MeetingMinutes20080824#
> >> > Underscore_prefix_on_private_.28protected.3F.29
> >> >
> >> > Basically, this rule is no longer required (as it was in PEAR1),
> >> > though
> >> > developers may choose to use them.
> >> >
> >> > What is YOUR opinion? Should the underscore be dropped in ZF2?
> >> > Please vote!
> >> >
> >> > http://is.gd/eeA6f
> >> >
> >> > Please do _not_ reply to this thread -- the arguments for and against
> >> > are well known at this time -- we're simply trying to decide on
> >> > whether
> >> > or not to amend the coding standards for ZF2.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> >> > Project Lead | [email protected]
> >> > Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> >> Project Lead | [email protected]
> >> Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
> >> PGP key: http://framework.zend.com/zf-matthew-pgp-key.asc
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dev Lead for Xoops Engine
> > Internet Application R&D @PerfectWorld
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dev Lead for Xoops Engine
> Internet Application R&D @PerfectWorld
>
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