I'm seeing a lot of talk about Doctrine 2 and ZF lately. Is the general
consensus that Doctrine is going to be used for object persistence, rather
than a new Zend component?

Yes Doctrine is great, but it has some limitations, some of which are
non-trivial in complex applications and the maintainers have shown no
interest in working on these issues.

I would much prefer a ZF component that has many of Doctrine's features, but
uses ZF's db adapters and other components (caches, etc). I think not having
ORM in ZF is a major hole and keeping if from being THE KILLER framework for
the web. My vote is for a new ZF ORM that tightly couples with the rest of
the framework.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:28 AM, David Muir
<[email protected]<davidkmuir%[email protected]>
> wrote:

>
>
> monk.e.boy wrote:
> >
> >
> > weierophinney wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> (APC http://php.net/manual/en/book.apc.php will help your speed
> issues)
> >>
> >> APC is one solution -- and that applies to ZF1 as well. However, the
> >> better solution is to profile the code and re-architect pain points to
> >> make them more performant. The autoloading/plugin loading milestone was
> >> highly focussed on this, and the outcome has been very rewarding --
> >> 7-20x speed increases!
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Agreed! The work you guys have done is amazing.
> >
> > But Doctrine2 is almost insisting [1] that you use
> > APC/Memcache/XcacheCache so it looks like a lot of us will be going down
> > that route. Is this something you are going to recomend with ZF2? Is it
> > something you think about when writing/testing v2.0?
> >
> > [1] ref:
> >
> http://www.doctrine-project.org/projects/orm/2.0/docs/reference/configuration/en
> >
> > monk.e.boy
> >
>
>
> The cache they're talking about is metadata caching. ZF1 already recommends
> this for Zend_Db_Table's metadata[1].
>
> What Matthew was referring to was opcode caching [2], not data caching,
> although some opcode caches offer general purpose caching functionality,
> ie.
> APC and Xcache
>
> [1] ref:
>
> http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.db.table.html#zend.db.table.metadata.caching
> [2] ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PHP_accelerators
>
> Cheers,
> David
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