-- Tomáš Fejfar <[email protected]> wrote (on Tuesday, 13 March 2012, 08:37 PM +0100): > From how I understood it, we still need to convince the SE staff that ZF2 > deserves one SE web for itself.
The comments on our proposal do not seem to necessarily reflect the staff. Even the link that the commenter made indicates that there's (a) contention about whether it's a problem or not, and (b) confusion by some as to what the projects proposed actually are. I think having a strong proposal that quickly meets the criteria specified for new definitions will likely be seen as a sign that we have a cohesive community interested in consolidating support in a single channel. > 2012/3/13 Anthony Shireman <[email protected]> > > Hope this reply all works correctly, sorry if anyone gets duplicates. > > Currently the SE proposal has 66 followers and 28 example questions with > 91 > votes. To proceed to the next step there needs to be 36 questions and each > question needs 10 votes. If I understand the process correctly we're 25% > of > the way to the next step. I just want to encourage everyone to post a > question, or vote on the current questions to get them above 10 votes. You > only get 5 votes on the proposal, so we need another 50+ people to help > move the proposal forward. Just wanted to hopefully motivate anyone who's > considering moving the proposal along to do so. > > > Tony > > 2012/3/13 Artur Bodera <[email protected]> > > 2012/3/13 Tomáš Fejfar <[email protected]> > > Just to clarify the reputation problem. The thing with reputation > is that it directly affect your abbilities on SE. You need it to > moderate, suggest new tags, vote for closing, etc. I'm in TOP 20 > users for ZF tag (http://stackoverflow.com/tags/zend-framework/ > topusers) and it took a lot of work to get the required reputation > that allow tag suggestions and voting. > > > You're right, however in this case: > > 1) If ZF dedicated site was set up, a group of moderators will be > assigned with necessary permissions (probably "framework team" and CR > team folks) > > 2) Other users can quickly gain rep by asking and answering > questions. > > > > To _use_ the site you don't need 5000 reputation - just create free > account and answer or ask your questions. After just a few answered > (and upvoted) answers you get more and more permissions, but those are > _not_ necessary for the whole site to fulfill its mission = serve > end-users. > > The upside to a separate rep. system is that we'll keep score based on > ZF-based knowledge, not "general programming", "shuffling arrays in > pascal" or "killing a process in DB2" knowledge. A person with high > score on ZF Q&A site = someone who's knowledgeable in the framework > and > helpful to others in this regard. > > > I'm sure Tomas, with your experience, you'll rank up in no time :) > > > > This http://i.imgur.com/ijyf5.png sums up pretty well why I gave > up > on > SO. The mailing list/IRC at least filters out, to some extent, > that > kind of people. > > > Why so negative ? :-) > > That's just one type of end-user we'll encounter. We can always > delete/ > moderate those questions and ban trolls, but those are also people. ML > and IRC doesn't filter anyone automatically, it's always by someone's > opinion on being OT or annoying or something. Novices also deserve > support - even if in the form of removing their comments and sending > them an URL of "ZF Quickstart". > > > > -- > __ > /.)\ +48 695 600 936 > \(./ [email protected] > > > > -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney Project Lead | [email protected] Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/ PGP key: http://framework.zend.com/zf-matthew-pgp-key.asc -- List: [email protected] Info: http://framework.zend.com/archives Unsubscribe: [email protected]
