try resetting the PRAM.. hold option+cmd+p+r after the bong, just  
hold it until the 3rd bong..

nigel


On 09 17, 09, at 9:24 PM, Gray Haired MAC User wrote:

>
> I just downloaded the monthly security updates and of course had to
> restart my pismo.  Now I get a screen that is lit, an apple and a
> spinning circle that never goes away.  Can't shut down without cutting
> power.  Whats my next stept???   Thanks for your help.
> >


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