On Friday, September 20, 2002, at 10:10 PM, KurtWAppling wrote:

> RE; I remember about the time frame of OS7.5 my OS included the 
> cyberdog
> browser,I still think had mac stayed with developeing it,the competeing
> browsers that load throughout the entire OS and thus corrupt and 
> damage the
> entire OS when they corrupt ,would have resulted in much less 
> troublesome
> machines than we have,because the same crap I put up with then Im 
> putting up
> with mow in OS 9.2.2 trying hard to enjoy browseing the web,,just my 
> luck so
> far... best wishes


I have never had any web browser 'corrupt and damage the entire OS' on 
my Mac. There is no 'integrated browser' on a Mac, at least not like 
there is in Windows. The default browser is set in the Internet control 
panel, and can be set to anything you want.

What is happening to you...maybe we can help.

I've seen too many people leap to the conclusion that something's wrong 
with their system because one program doesn't work, and re-install 
their entire system. In all my years of using a Mac I've only once had 
to re-install the OS because 'it was corrupted'. Everything in the 
Classic OS system is right there in the system folder .

I've had to toss preference files, re-install the finder (8.0 had this 
nasty ability to corrupt the Finder file, causing a -42 error (file not 
found) on boot. I reinstalled my entire system once, before I figured 
out it was the Finder, and that booting from the CD and dragging the 
Finder from the CD's system folder to my HD fixed the problem.)

The biggest sources of web browser problems in Classic OS are: 
Insufficient memory allocated to the browser, an un-rebuilt desktop, 
and flaky disks.

Allocate at least 24 mb ram to Netscape and it stops crashing. Doubling 
the memory on any browser from the stock results if vastly smoother 
operation. NS 4.04 (back in the day) *constantly* blew up with Type 1 
and Type 2 errors. I could browse for maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes at a 
time some days.

With Mozilla or Netscape 7 try checking to see if there is an updated 
Java for your Mac, go to apple's web site and search the downloads for 
Java.

Boosting Netscape's memory to 24 mb stopped the crashes in their tracks.

If you have to stop and think about how exactly it is you rebuild your 
desktop, then it's been too long! Do it now. Do it monthly.  Reboot, 
holding down the Command and Option keys until the Mac asks you do you 
want to rebuild the desktop?

Run disk first aid after you rebuild the desktop. If it reports it 
found and fixed an error, re-run it again until it reports that the 
disk is OK twice in a row, sometimes on badly messed up disks you have 
to run it three or four times in a row.

On desktop Macs flaky memory can be a problem as well (Powerbooks tend 
not to run at all when their memory goes bad...) particularly old 
7/8/9x00 machines with the motley collection of DIMMS they all seem to 
accumulate.

--
Bruce Johnson

Wherever you go, there you are.



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