On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Jeremy Derr wrote:

> On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Kevin Stevens wrote:
>
> > I also really wish they'd included USB 2.0.  To be the best "digital
> > hub", you need to drop the politics sometimes and get with what the
> > rest of the world is doing.
>
> except that the rest of the world isn't doing USB 2. and those devices
> that ARE USB 2, almost all still have FireWire ports on them. A recent
> visit to Fry's proved this.... of all their decent USB 2 devices, every
> one of them had FireWire too.

That's simply not true.  The digital camera market is very fragmented
between USB 2 and Firewire, and they typically only have one of the two.
As pixel sizes become larger it becomes even more of an issue.  Card
readers of various types are also quickly converting to USB 2.  Ditto
handheld uplink devices.  If you're talking about *computers*, I agree -
that's exactly what I'm complaining about.

Put another way, the difference between USB 1 and USB 2 (11vs400Mb) is a
enormous benefit to have.  The improvement between Firewire and F2 (400 vs
800Mb) is much less so - you usually can't dump 50MB/sec to disk anyway,
never mind 100MB/sec.

KeS

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