Pat Heidingsfelder said:
>So I figured I would
>break it open and unplug the pram battery.
Please don't use such strong words as "break" around here. It's scary.
Did you ground yourself when you took it apart?

> Tried it out, same thing.   I am just going to
>have to unplug the pram, or could it be something else?  Any tips to
>getting to the pram plug?
I don't think that will help. As your fan spins you do have power. Also,
you don't say if the HD spins up or not. Also, if you get more life into
it but you still can't boot, you can try and boot into Open Firmware by
holding Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing "set-defaults" + <return> + "reset-all" +
<return>. Then try and boot from CD by holding down key "c"

My best advice, leave it plugged in for a couple of days. That have
helped many seemingly dead machines. After that, remove one RAM chip at a
time, replace with known good.

As for getting to the PRAM backup battery you need to (after you have
grounded yourself) remove the:

� AC adapter
� Expansion bay modules
� Keyboard
� Heat sink (after this you can touch the cage as an alternative way to
grounding, but this means you should actually leave the power supply in
and be connected to a grounded outlet via power supply with a ground
cable. Better to just get a grounding wriststrap.)
� Clutch cover (careful as not break the plastics)
� Display (be very careful with the cables)
� Hard drive
� Modem or modem plug
� Microprocessor board top case
� Top Case

on the underside you'll find the PRAM backup battery connected to the PMU
board.

I do wonder if unplugging the PMU card could potentially have the same
effect as unplugging the PRAM battery. I'm not sure. Anyone else have an idea?


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